Update: Still No Money
On February 10th I received a phone call from Tramaco Jones. Of course, by this time there was still no money in my account. All communication between me and the investment group had completely deteriorated. For ten days in a row I called Kelvin's, Lindell's, and TJ's phones, only to be met with voicemails. Each time my message was the same: Where is my money. I did not give you money for free. Talk to me. Explain what is going on. Give me my money back. There was no response each time. So I got serious. Since Kelvin stays with his Mom, I called her house. Shizam! I got to speak to Kelvin. Even when he was noticeably irritted about me calling his Mom's house (where he resides) he stuck to his same story. You'll get your money on Thursday, February 12th. This is what Lindell told me. I can only tell you what Lindell tells me. You know what's funny? He had the nerve to be irritated, as if I were the crook. I called Lindell's phone, no answer, so I called his wife's cell phone. His adult son answered the phone. Please tell Lindell to call me. He has my life savings and won't answer my calls. That did it. February 10th, I received a phone call from TJ.
He started off smooth and amenable in the beginning. Baby, Baby? I didn't know you were doing all these things. I learned a long time ago that unintelligent, insecure men use condescending terms of endearment when they address females in business transactions. It's hilarious, really. I wasn't Baby when they were asking for my money, but now that I've caught his lying, thieving self he's desperately grasping at some clichd, tired insult to retain his self-induced superiority complex.
This is all Cedric Ellison's fault. He was paid $46,000 by another investor to set up two corporations and then establish acquire funding for the corporatins. Okay. But he never did it. I've been calling and calling and calling him but he won't return my calls. I didn't pay him your money. He ripped off someone. But that caused my deal where your money came to play to fall apart. Hmmm. My brain was exploding with the contradictions to his own lies.
But, TJ, you, Lindell and Kelvin led me to believe that you gave him my funds. I have a signed contract with C.L.'s signature faxed to you asking for $46,000 in funds to secure financing. You stated that's where my funds were goingto be paid to C. L - Liars don't like to be reminded of what they lied about previously. He cut me off and raised his voice a little louder.
No! That is not what YOUR contract says! Then he caught himself. I guess he remembered you can't keep lying to someone and then yell at them.investor A, (I'm not revealing the names of investors so all investors will be identified by letters.) -took out a loan for $60,000 and gave $46,000 to C.L. From a lender called BBT for the purpose of building the corporations. Those corporations would have helped us purchase the Knightdale mall. I let him ramble and induce himself into a self-congratulatory haze that he was convincing me of another set of lies. I didn't let him know that I had already spoken to Investor A, C.L. And C.L.'s attorney. They related a different story.
C.L.'s attorney, C.L., Investor A and I had a lengthy conference call last week. It turns out that T.J. Is good friends with Investor A's father. TJ needed someone with good credit. He introduced Investor A to C.L.C.L. Used Investor A's credit to obtain $60,000.00 in funds. Forty thousand was payment to T.J. Towards the Knightdale project. Twenty thousand C.L. Kept to finish the project by creating corporations.investor A admitted that C.L. Was making the payment on $20K, but not the $40K. T.J. Made two payments to Investor A for the $40K loan, the last being in November.investor A stated he was told by TJ and CL that he would not have to pay the loans back. But he is getting collection notices from the lenders.investor A has made two payments on the loans, but can no longer afford to continue making the payments because he was told the deal would close in November, similar to the rest of us.
Back to T.J.'s delusion: So, according to T.J. It is all C.L.'s fault that none of the investors got their money. When the November and December dates came and went, it was because C.L. Would not get in touch with T.J. Hmmm.in this admission, in his fast and frantic hustle-speak TJ did not realize how many times he had contradicted the original lies he, Lindell and Kelvin had told us about why we had not received our funds. T.J. Admitted that he never got far in the negotiation process for the Knightdale mall. He stated that the broker he spoke to was David Webb and claims that David Webb was the broker for the Knightdale project before Wakefield Realty, who took over December 19th. This is why when I called to verify if Wakefield Realty knew T.J. And crew, no one knew them. Hmmm. T.J. Must not have read my earlier post where I state that Wakefield Realty has always been the broker for the property as well as part owner. More lies. When I tired of listening to him throw C.L. Under the bus, I pounced.
So, T. J, why didn't you give me my money back November 1st? My funds were for the Knightdale purchase, nothing else. But the circular logic of a crook will not be outdone.
No! Your funds were to be used to secure funding! Four times T.J. Would not let me finish my question. He evaded the obvious: The moment he realized that C.L. Had not performed his end of the deal, T.J. Should have notified all of the investors of this development and refunded our money to us promptly. He chose not to. The illegalities and fraudulent behaviors our endless!
So, T.J., that means there was never a Bank of the Netherlands? The bank wasn't waiting for Homeland Security, IRS and the Department of Treasury? You were never sitting in the bank with C.L. Working out the deals with the banks? You had never signed papers with the bank to purchase the mall? The bank never agreed to release the funds January 7th? In fact, there is no real estate deal at all? When do I and the other investors get our funds back? Silence from T.J. Then he erupted.
I never said that. I never said any of those things! You're argumentative. You have a way of twisting words. You twist words!
Kelvin and Lindell said you stated these things. All of our updates came from Kelvin, allegedly via Lindell straight from you.
The bus came hard and heavy. You have to ask them. I never said any of those things. I don't speak for them and they don't speak for me. Lindell and Kelvin have the other investors' funds. I'm not responsible for any funds except yours. I am fully one hundred percent responsible for your funds only. Lindell has the funds of the other investors. You never heard me say anything about other investors. I don't even know those other investors. Take it up with Lindell. So this was it. Now that the heat was on, T.J. Was throwing out everything and everyone indiscriminately.
T.J., when you, Kelvin and Lindell first contacted me about this deal, you informed me that my funds were being pooled with the funds of other investors-
I never said that!
Baby, on December 19th when C.L. Took off with the money, I sent your money to DBS Hong Kong to secure alternative funding. I didn't have to tell you. I am personally responsible for your money and I will get your money to your Friday, February 20th. My Australian contact, Jackie Danes, will fly to Hong Kong to sign the papers to release the funds next Friday. She is the only one who can do this. I will get your initial investment back to you then and then work on your investment interest later. Wow, you have to almost admire the willful psychosis of the con man. They really believe that even in the face of getting caught you will continue to believe them.
Can I have a phone number to verify this?
No, you will not mess up this deal for the other investors! I asked three times. He repeated this stupid mantra three additional times.
But you just said you aren't responsible for the other investors. If you aren't responsible for the other investors, why are you concerned with getting their money back to them on Friday? Who are you, Lindell and Kelvin to decide for me that I can absolve Kelvin and Lindell of responsibility for this scam? I hold all of you responsible, per my contract. Just because you are deciding to take responsibility is not going to keep me from calling Kelvin and Lindell.
He erupted into yelling and screaming over my slander of his good name on the internet. Then my investigator stepped in. Unbeknownst to T.J. I had a witness listening to the conversation the entire time and recording everything that was spoken. As my investigator interrogated a startled T.J., I reflected on one piece of good fortune. T.J. Had requested an additional $250K investment from me back in October for a separate golf course deal. He had emailed me pictures of the Grand Hyatt near San Diego and spoke of valuable net worth and billion dollar payouts. When I failed to provide the additional $250K, his entire demeanor had changed. He had become angry and stopped speaking with me. Now I know why. There was never a golf course deal. If I had given T.J., Lindell and Kelvin an additional $250K, those funds would have been used to pay off Investor A and other investors that Princmill Enterprise Trust had taken funds from under false pretenses. This is why T.J., Lindell and Kelvin were so upset with me late last year. This is why Investor A received his last payment from T.J.in November. There were no more funds.
Their Ponzi scheme had begun to fall apart in October. All of the lies these last few months were simply ruses to stall for time. Even today my Mom continues to say, Thank God in heaven that you did not hand over $250K. You would have really had to go hunt them down.
I don't believe there is a Jackie Danes in Australia traveling to Hong Kong to send money back to T.J. He's borrowing time.
To date, I have discovered fourteen investors scammed by Princmill Enterprise Trust and their suspicious associates. I'm sure there are more. Lindell's number is disconnected. He's telling the investors that he ran out of money to pay his bill, but that his phone would be cut back on this Wednesday. Hmmm. Awfully strange his phone stopped working as soon as I found out the truth. Once I found out the truth definitively with proof, Lindell and crew are running around telling the other investors that the police are after C.L. Because C.L. Ripped THEM OFF. Right. I asked Investor B: Don't you think it's strange they are coming forth with this information now only after I discovered it and told you first? His response was predictable.
They're all doing something they shouldn't be doing. I just want my money so I can be through with these folks. If we get our principal back, that would be a start. Amen.
C.L.'s attorney demanded that I print a retraction and clear his client's name. I had to laugh at his attempt to intimidate memea woman who has been nothing but kind and is having the worst that can happen to a person occur—and thought, how arrogant of this attorney. C.L. Would not address T.J.'s accusations that he was paid to build corporations. Whether it was $46,000 or $20,000, he was paid in connection with this phony deal. Questions remain. Did he know it was phony? Why is he paying on a loan that Investor A gave him? What was the purpose of the loan? Did he avoid TJ or did TJ avoid him? This is not just about my funds. This is about the funds of multiple investors. Between T.J.'s lies and C.L. S maneuvers, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I don't believe any of them. And I won't stop investigating and writing until my funds are put back in my account. That will shut all of this down. My money put back in my account so i can go on with my life. I am the victim. And unless you are a fellow scammed investor, the only other role anyone else can have in this sorry state of affairs is that of con man or crooked associate. Time will tell which one it is.
Stay tuned for Friday's report. I can't wait to hear what excuse these clowns come up with next. Now that there is no bank, no Bank of the Netherlands, no Homeland Security, no Knightdale mall purchase, no internet post scaring the bank who or what is the blame for the delay? Why can't these crooks just give us our money back? This is a rhetorical question. They can't give us back something they've been living off of all this time. None of them work. They just live off the money of hard working people.
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