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Professional Marketing International
The jim banks probate scam

The jim banks probate scam

Professional Marketing International / ITF Training www.pmieducation.com/800 860 8068 x5008 fax 480 970 1416 8010 E McDowell Rd #205, Scottsdale, AZ 85257 3049 N Executive Parkway, Lehi, UT 84043

Support: 800-330-4413 7-7 M-Th, F 7-5, S 7-1 15 expertsVictor 801-341-3607 (initial saleman)Terry Program Administrator, 801-341-3724 Direct 480-970-1416 direct 800 860 8068 ext 3624 Kevin Director Matt Watson  Shannon 800-860-8068 x3826 –the main bad-guy

CHRONOLOGYTu 2-9 signup 8PM, charged $7055 for #2 package — Billed by ITF Training (actually ITS TRAINING —using all kinds of namesW 2-10  worked all day on this  due diligence —called customer service @ 6PM to cancel, no one there, mentor said they were closed, yet I ordered last night at 8PM Th 2-11 CANCEL —called customer svs, no answer, some game? Unprofessional = poor customer svs  Matt Watson —no problem, will connect to cust svs —they’re making me sick Shannon 800-860-8068 x3826 —jerk —trying to punk me They say they’ll give me a 6 month money-back guarentee —I turn them downF 2-12?  Called CC, asked if charge was removed2-19?  Received UPS package —sent back to whatever address it was shipped fromM 2-22  Call CC, filed dispute w Jason Patterson 866-266-0212 8120 Called PMI for cancelation #, said cancellation # was 142294 — they make me pissed —says I’m still signed-up, twisting things —says I didn’t cancel, after I told him so many times —trying to push me into their scam3-1  Get letter: PMI letter says I will be refunded upon me returning the merchandise — I returned the items (2 unopened CDs) weeks ago3-10  Charge is still on account3-16 PMI says resubmitting refund letter for signature —Kirin (customer svs) 3-22 Call Credit card dispute Dept —CC says PMI says they requested an invoice from me, I never got an invoice —get letter from PMI, sign. To place in mail tomarrow

The Jim Banks Probate Real Estate Infomercial 800-797-8121 (sales line, to buy book)

Money-Making Opportunity: Help settle estates, pay 12% value for personal property. I order the book for $40, and the salesman tried to sell on and on other services like a probate finder system for $90 and tele-seminars, etc. About 2 weeks later, they call you and offer a training course, they interview you extensively, asking all kinds of personal questions, they seem very professional, upfront and above-board –a little to smooth, you want to believe all their claims —thier basically opening you up and testing how deep they can probe.

Their speel goes something like this (I wish I had a better memory of it) —we sell 4000-8000 kits a week (you’re just one of the many, are they really making $160-320k a week?), we’re looking for success stories to place on our infomercial, this is a special invitation, you have special access to 15 experts who will mentor you to success, guarenteed. Months before I was given the same speel after buying Dean Gradosie’s book, and it turns out that it is the same company (PMI) selling these programs. It’s slowly revealed that it costs $7000, actually they have 3 different priced packages. They use a team approach, you talk with 4 or 5 smooth operators with important titles, and they will call you over and over, spending enormous amounts of time to hold your hand in making a decision. They make lots of claims and make it sound like they are loyal mentors, that they are accessable and dedicated. They imply that you will make money for sure without a doubt, i.E. Put in 10 hours a week, make your money back in 30 days on your fist deal.

This is what I get: Legal Library 2000 forms, discTax Liens 10-50% interest —3% default, then you own homeWeb Conf market analysis, feasibility studies, pipelineRE hotline access 12hrs/day 6days/wk —must call mentor consistently 4685Tele Sems daily, record themProp trends software —analize properties, etc 6980

Claims, Commitments, Guarantees, PromisesPMI: Will help complete 1st 5 deals, will help complete 1 deal per month walk you through locating, evaluating and acquiring real-estate —Unlimited mentoring for 6 monthsIf no transaction in 6mos, request hotline free of charge for up to 1yr after completion earn Inv back warranty: complete 5 Real Estate transactions within one year and send complete doc, PMI will reimburse tuition 100% —PMI will have permission to share success storyPMI Cliams work 8-10hrs a week, close your 1st deal in 30 days, close 5 deals in next 6mos, make your investment back on 1st deal Profit 20-30% per transaction 88% success rate, 80,000 success storiesA rating with the BBB —“you can’t get any better than that” —ya right, they have 200 complaintsMe submit at least 2 offers a month —what if this is some scheme or game where it’s impossible?  let mentor help w transactions  put forth effort —8-10hrs/wk for 6mos Temp investment (tuition)Teachable, trainable, open-minded —motivated, serious, follow-through

I think it over, do some Jim Banks due diligence research on the internet, can’t really find anything. They push you into buying, saying you can cancel within 3 days no problem. I assure them that I will conduct through due diligence, and they assure me that I will find nothing, that they are professional, above-board, etc. They likely think that I won’t find much relating to Jim Banks on the internet, etc.

They offer a money-back guarentee and implying money-back if I make no money (no risk), and they offer a 3 day money-back guarentee. I ordered and asked for the guarentee in writing, thinking I would conduct my due diligence and cancel if I wanted too. They say the charge will show up from PMI or Professional Marketing International on your credit card.

Upon review, the guarantee is flawed, deceptive and fraudulent. The word guarantee implies that I have recourse if other party doesn’t follow-through on commitments and promises. This guarantee doesn’t backup cliams, promises and commitments. This is no guarentee, it smacks of dishonesty and lack of integrity. It is very weak & shallow, and doesn’t benefit me. There is no recourse here. I was under impression that this was refundable if I didn’t make $. There is no money-back guarentee or refund if I don’t make money. I’ve included the guarentee text below. They are very smooth operators.

My Due Diligence findings:

Gut  Not 100% sold/convinced/reassured, Not overcoming my fears feeling a little sick, not comfortable, not reassured  NO, NO, NO, NO  Remember  Getting punked, gamed — Smiths, ACFA, ASD, Carton Sheets, Kiosaki,  should be no rush — Don’t just jump in, do your homeworkBe Skeptical Hype   hooplaPressuring  rushed, sales tec —4 guys talking it up —boiler-room —trick —they’re ready to slam the door shut and walk away if you bringup questions —they use reverse psychology? Prey on your consciousCrafty  tricky, gaming, slick, hi-tec systems of conversion —disquised as friends, support, mentor Too Risky  Can’t afford, don’t have the money, not going to borrow $ (bad) —I could easily loose money $, time, effort —I’m risk adverse —risks are unnecessary —never once has a risk paid-out Cheap, faulty, something’s amiss Some game where I get played —they’ll do anything to make a buck

Not a money-back guarentee   I have no recourse if PMI fails it’s commitments, promises or claims? —i. E I don’t get deal closedDeceptive  The word guarantee implies that I have recourse if other party doesn’t follow-through on commitments and promisesThis guarantee doesn’t backup cliams, promises and commitments —this is no guarentee, it smacks of dishonesty or lack of integritythere is no recourse here —I was under impression that this was refundable if I didn’t make $ —there is no money-back guarentee or refund if I make no money very weak & shallow: doesn’t benefit me, not ratedforget it, I’m out Company  no infor —histroy, D&B, owner, structure —credibility  fully understand what investing in?  Getting run-around?  pressured into investing before questions answered?   no: disclosures  co history  D&B#  warrantees  guarantees  3 days is not enough time to conduct through due diligence  they didn’t tell me it was PMI until last minute, so I did due diligence on wrong company (dirty little trick)  cost me a day figuring them out  twisted/not straight-up lack transparency iffy can’t get ahold of customer svs BBB “ A rating and that’s the highest rating you can get.”  says A rating with BBB   Shannon Tolley 800-860-8068 x3826 total pressuring, tricky tactics, not mentor, wants my $, pissed me off, not providing info, not on my side, not supportive, high pressure tactics, manipulation, arm twisting, ugly tactics, steamrolling, unprofessional, gaming, pushy, reminds me of RJ, making a big deal, fucken w me, I’m not going to just jump in bed with them, didn’t know D&B#, sick feeling 

They don’t strike me as ethical operators, gaming, trying to break me down, insistent, hammering, violating fudiciary duty

Due Diligence Conclusion: CANCEL ASAP

Professional Marketing International / James G. Banks Warranty and Guarantee OUR WARRANTY TO YOU IS: Our goal is to complete as many real estate deals with you as you can do in 6 months to a year. However, if for any reason, you have not completed at least 1 real estate deal that has paid all of your tuition back to you then we will extend the length of the program and continue to work with you for an additional 12 months (total of 18 months) ABSOLUTELY FREE OF CHARGE. THE PMI AMAZING GUARANTEE: As soon as you have completed 5 deals within your first year of registration and send complete documentation AND upon acceptance, we will send you a bonus check that is equal to 100% of every dollar that you have spent with this company. CANCELLATION: You will have 3 business days from the time of your first appointment, not registration. A cancellation may occur during that time. After that period of time your enrollment will be complete. 8010 e mcdowell road # 205 scottsdale, Az 85257 phone 800 860 8068 fax 480 970 1416 3049 n executive parkway lehi, ut 84043 To learn more about us you can log onto www.bing.com and in their search box type in professional marketing international. You can then open up the links that follow.