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Empire Marketing Systems (EMS)
Ripoff, dishonest, ignoring my calls, rude, crooks

Hey Jason, I know you'll see this. I did not want to have to do this, but your continuing disrespect for my situation, and the fact that you (or anyone else from your company) absolutely refuse to return my calls and emails, has given me no choice.

It all started after I bought an ebook (The Silent Sales Machine on Ebay) a couple of months ago. Somehow these guys (EMS) got my phone number and contacted me three weeks ago. The representative who called me wanted to know if I was interested in a business venture with them. Basically, EMS would help me through the steps of starting my own online business.

He asked me a few questions about my dedication to starting a business and the like, and he later "recommended" me as an "excellent candidate" for their business.

He then went over the cost for me to "join" them as a client. I told him I had $1,100 saved up in my account. He said most of their clients invest $4,000 to $7,000, but that "they could work with what I had".

Now before I go further, I want to point out that that $1,100 was ALL I had. I was fired from my job about a month and a half prior to this phone conversation. So basically, I had zero income at the time (I'm only 18 and I'm still in High School). I made all of this PERFECTLY clear to this guy, but he still insisted that they could work with what I had. Still a little skeptical, I agree to pay them the 1100 dollars. I'm not usually this dumb, but those people have a way with words.

Now I also want to point out that I was completely mislead about exactly 'what' I was getting for my money. The guy I talked to made me think that $1100 was all I needed. I figured they'd start me out on Ebay, as that's what we talked about (and the fact that they got my number through that Ebay related ebook I purchased). Now this is my fault for not getting more info, but he could have clarified things better. I believe he deliberately left out HUGE details, details had I known about I would have never agreed to pay them. This was all done just to get my money.

It wasn't untill after I wired them my money, that I found out exactly what I had paid for, which was only coaching. I know realized I was going to have to pay seperately for merchant accounts, web hosting, domain name registeration, and marketing (all things I thought my 1,100 dollars was going to, or atleast partly).

This would have been all perfectly fine if I had big bucks to spend on this, and of course, as I've already mentioned, I did not. Unfortunately, after I came to my senses and realized I had made a terrible mistake, it was after the three day cancellation period so they would'nt refund my money.

When I contacted them over a refund, I talked to a Jason Cambeth who explained this to me, even after I had told him I was broke. Jason then echoed the same thing as the first guy, that I should just try it out and that I can make money from this. I still was'nt buying it (afterall, I do know how much it cost to start a business and I didn't have it). I decided to try anyway, or atleast see what the coaching would provide me, seeing as they would not give me back my money.

So I scheduled an appointment with my coach, Doug, for the 27th of April. It is now the 6th of May and I STILL have not heard from this guy. So, not only was I mislead about exactly 'what' I was getting for my $, now I'm not even getting what I supposively 'what' DID pay for. Now, I'm pissed.

THEN, a few days ago, the inevitable happens. I get a call from a merchant account company, wanted $2,300 from me to open a Merchant Account!!! This is the kind of stuff I had originally thought I had paid for with my initial investment! I, again, told this company that I was broke and had nothing to give them, yet they still wanted to know if I could get money together for a $300 downpayment!!! What a bunch of crooks!!! These guys, just like EMS, don't give a rip whether or not I succeed, as long as they can squeeze money out of me they're happy.

Now I'm really pissed. I again tried to call EMS to cancel and get a refund, but every time I called I couldn't even get in contact with someone who would talk to me. I told the operator at EMS several times to tell Jason, or somone else who would discuss my situation with me, to give me a call. Almost a week later, and about five or six calls to EMS later, and I have yet to talk to this Jason, or anyone else. They have been completely ignoring me.

Ohh, I did mention that my coach has still not contacted me AT ALL, right?

I then tried to email them, I told them my situation in a long email and ask them to please call me, otherwise I'd be forced to report them here and other places. They must not have taken me seriously as they have not answered that either.

So, here I am, out $1,100 that I sweated over to save, all gone for nothing. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, as now I can't continue with EMS 'cause I'm broke, and I can't go at starting a business on my own because I've giving everything to EMS!!! And I still haven't even talked to my coach!!!

Bottom line, This all could have been avoided. These people KNEW I didn't have the money to follow their system, but they lured me in anyway to get my money. I mean, how does a 2300 dollar merchant account "working with what I have"? I know there are cheaper solutions out there like PayPal they could have started me on (but they wouldn't get any $ out of that).

I shudder to even think how they were expecting me to pay for marketing my site, or web hosting? They obviously didn't care. They just told me what I wanted to hear, and I stupidly fell for it.

Still waiting to hear from you EMS.

P.S. Thank you usacomplaints.com for providing this site for people like me, I really appreciate it.

Joel
NC, North Carolina
U.S.A.



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