My experience at the Myrtles Plantation. WARNING!!!
My husband to be and I have had many experiences at the Myrtles Plantation.
We have contracts with them to perform our wedding and reception services.
When I first arrived at the Myrtles Plantation I was taken back by the ground although some of the areas do not seem kept up well but that may be due to the age, the rooms we have visited smelled good and looked visually stunning.
However we made the choice to follow though with a contract with them
Might I note Hester who works out there has at this point in time always been friendly and courteous However I can not make the same statement for others at the plantation. There for I feel my experiences should be heard. I visited the Plantation with two girlfriend of mine in November where we talked and toured the grounds with Hester she was super sweet and accommodating I return at a later date with my Fiance where we both toured the grounds while we waited for Hester to return to the plantation.
At this time we my fiance and I decided to go ahead with the contract to have our entire wedding at the plantation.
We received a contract from Hester she signed it we did not sign the contract as we did not know the exact time we wanted the contract to start to take place. She said she understood and signed and explained when we knew what was up with our wedding we could fill in the rest submit the contract along with the deposit. At that time we left our credit card information on file with them so they could use the information at any time needed.
The Myrtles had told us the restaurant on site would provide the food for the reception and that no outside vendors for food would be accepted we thought great one stop shopping
As time commenced I continued to make plans for our wedding. As I started the contract negotiation with the restaurant on site I encountered many delays due to the owner of the restaurant not responding, and when she would there was always an excuse I was busy with upcoming event. My children are sick, the baby sitter is missing, Her dad has a heart attack, the rain blew out the internet and phones. Always something. Delays with providing accurate pricing for food. Example: Toss salad was quoted to me via telephone for 107 dollars, later I enquired about the cost of Potato salad and was quoted 37 dollar Guess which one I ordered. The owners price changed from menu she submitted with an excuse of well that is the cost for this type of party and that is the cost for this type of event. Nothing with her was consistent. The only consistents she had she was inconsistent.
We tried to confirm a bartender for the event, as we were ordering open bar for our guest. However again she couldnt confirm a bartender for our event because she wasnt sure if in fact or not she would have employees for the event. At this point the wedding is four months out. And I still do not have a contract with her.
Being besides myself with her lack of consitances and contract and the restaurant vendor not return emails and phone calls on time or schedual left me feeling unsure on how to handle the situation. So I sought out opinions on a public forum as what to do and how to handle the situation. The posting I placed up was an actual letter that I had sent my vendor and a few additional comments on what to do and how to handle it.
This is the exact posting I posted
Food vendor is not returning emails?
I sent and email on Sat Nov 10 and I still haven't heard a resonance from you 4 days later regarding a new proposal you promised. Please understand that further delays in planing will lead us to loose our scheduled date for matrimony. The date that my fiancee and I have planed is a special date to us. And that before we could have another date that is similar wouldn't be for another 4 months.in addition we have many out of state guest that need 3-4 month advance notice to make arrangements for flight and hotel accommodation.
With the rules of the Myrtles Plantation being that we can not bring an outside venue for food choices We would like to reserve the venue for our wedding but I am afraid your slow or non response is making me nervous not only now but in the long run... Hence the reason we have not set a deposit with the Myrtles since this is a two part deal between Myrtles and Varnedoe's. We can't use one without the other.
I do understand the way this type of partnership works, it is a smart idea to corner the market when it comes to special events or customer of the Myrtles. I have no problem with that. But please just correspond with me in a timely matter. This would be greatly appreciated.
I need a break down what each item cost per dish, IE: does chicken cost more than sausage. And buy how much. Than this way we can choose weather or not we want one dish over the other. Or more or less of a certain dish.
At this time we are looking for... We are 100 percent positive on this choice as using the Myrtles for the wedding location. However we are feeling nervous about the role Verandoe's plays in this.
This is what we are needing a proposal on. As I asked you prior for something 16-18 per person. I am just trying to spread our funds diligently as I am sure you are well aware weddings are a large expense.
4 months ago
Additional Details
4 months ago
We really don't think we will get anything for 16-18 per person but I am shooting low to go higher.
What should I do how much longer should I wait to deal with these people. I am afraid we are going to lose our wedding site due to the resturant not having their crap together.
Whatg should I do next if they fail to return a responce.?
4 months ago
I can't sign a contract until we agree what they will be serving. Hence the reason I need a propsal. Once we have received the propsal and agree that this is the correct menu I have 14 days to place the deposite
They have alot of hidden fee's as well so 18-20 per head really works out to about 40 a head with a simple layout. My FH and I dont' care for the food they offer.
I received responses to my dilemma on how to proceed. Heck ten opinions are better than one, and the one being me who is frustrated.
Shortly after this I receive a email from the restaurant. They have viewed this posting on the internet and are not happy and want me to write a retraction in a public forum.
Here is the e-mails they have sent me asking me to recant the advice I was seeking as it didnt make them look to good and was ruining their reputation.
It has been brought to my attention that there is a thread on Answers. Y*ho*o.com regarding your feelings toward us and our food. The exact email that you sent to me back in October is in fact on the website. I would appreciate it if you could post another comment that redeems us since you have indeed decided to go forward with the wedding at The Myrtles and therefore, us as the caterer.
Thanks,
Doughty Varnedoe
PS - we'll work out the bartender situation to benefit all parties involved.
At this point I called the Myrtles plantation as I wasnt happy about being asked to redeems someone for work that wasnt completed, nor did I want to recant for seeking advice no matter how public.
I then received the following email From the Vendor.
Fri, 18 Jan
Dear &*&*&*, -
Glenn Devillier, manager at The Myrtles, mentioned that you called him yesterday after you received my email. He says that you are concerned that I am mad about the Yahoo issue. Just wanted to say that while it doesn't make me jump for joy, I am not mad just the same. You were feeling neglected and vented - albeit in an extremely public way. I apologized, met your needs, and have communicated quite well with you since that time. So much so that you have booked The Myrtles and us for the wedding. My opinion is that if you felt so strongly about our lack of attention to post a comment on Yahoo that you should feel equally as strong about how we have redeemed ourselves and want to post an update on Yahoo. I can't force you to do so, of course. It would be nice though.
All of this now under the rug, I am leaving for the day and will email over your amended proposal with contract tonight. You can sign it and fax it back to 225-635-2618. Glenn confirmed that your credit card is proper so I'll let you know what the deposit will be from us and go ahead and run the card for it.
Talk to you soon,
Doughty Varnedoe
At this point Glenn the manager of the Myrtles plantation had a talk with Doughty Varendeo and helped us gain the provisions of the contract we were seeking as well as obtaining a contract, The contract was pulled together on Jan 18th
At this point I kept having issues with the format of the version of the contract was sent in. They were sent in Sophisticated forms of word that my computer would support I continued to express that I couldnt download the contract
Here is where I received the next Email from Doughty Varendeo.
Sun, 10 Feb
Sorry for the delay. I have been sick as a dog for three days. I am resending the contract in regular Word format, so let me know if you still have problems. As for the kids, we can put out a chafing dish with a mixture of kid items and fries for a certain price (need to ask Scott what that is).
We really need to get this finalized and get a deposit. I'm getting lots of requests for April dates and without your signed contract and deposit, the date is not officially yours. It's also getting close to the time that The Myrtles won't refund your money if you and I can't come to a resolution on things.
Thanks,
Doughty
The following emails followed.
Sent: Saturday, March 01 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: deposit and contract
I am truely sorry for any delay, as people these days have forgotten how to RSVP even if it comes in a self addressed stamped envolope, Our cut off date for RSVP was 28th of Feb,
I will have final head count asap. We can accomidate I will speak to my fiancee as to what method he wants to use at this point for deposite. Or you can call him 3*-849-0771 (please feel free)... As i am tired of listening to myself talk to him.
I will send back the contract with an eltronical signature.
Thanks again
sorry there is only one of me who seems to give a darn about the whole function. As everyone is out of state.
Mon, 3 Mar 09:49: 36 -0600
* -
I received the contract with electronic signature - thank you. We can use the credit card you have on file with The Myrtles to cover the deposit or you can call me with an alternative cc #. Your other option is to mail me a check or money order. I provided the mailing address in a previous email but can resend it if you need me to. You'll need to mail it soon though.
I will wait to hear from you about the final guest count. I also need to get the date of when you are thinking of coming here to show me how to create the centerpieces. I want to make sure I don't schedule anything else.
Thanks,
Doughty
I wrote the following email to Varendeos restaurant.
Sent: Monday, March 03 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: deposit and contract
Hi,
Please resend the address as we will be providing you with a check. MIke is about to head offshore for three weeks so we are spending the next few trying to colaborate everything to the wedding.
Thanks
Subject: Re: deposit and contract
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 10:14: 52 -0600
Varnedoe's Carriage House
Attn: Doughty Varnedoe
PO Box 1971
St. Francisville, LA 70775
Thanks!
The next email is from Doughty Varendeos
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 10:07: 55 -0500
* -
Just sending this email as confirmation of our phone conversation on Friday, March 7th, when you informed me that you were putting the deposit check in the mail. I will notify you upon our receipt of the check.
Thanks,
Doughty
Here is the next email that follows in its entirety as I want the whole document to be sent not only in part. Really direct your attention to the last paragraph where she acknowledges I have sent the payment.
Wed, 12 Mar 22:03: 17 -0400
If the cake has to sit outside for any lengthy amount of time prior to
the reception, the quality
of the cake will be affected. My suggestion on that would be to keep it
refrigerated as long as
possible and then you can leave it inside the air conditioned
plantation for up to a few hours
prior to needing it. It should be okay outside about 1-2 hours before
you actually need to serve
it.
As for cups for the bar: I'll have to check on the ounces that we
normally serve and let you know
about size of cup as well as quantity of cup. We usually purchase ours
from a food vendor or Sam's
Club.
Keg or Bottle: the cost for the open bar included bottled beer but if
you prefer a keg, I can
check into that for you. If you want to stick with bottled beer, you
can choose 1 domestic beer
and 1 imported beer or 2 domestic beers. If you're interested in keg
beer - which will mean more
cups and putting down a deposit on a tap - you have several choices of
beer depending on what you
want: bud light, bud, miller lite, imports, etc.
Minors and AA: the "minor" children are considered adults for the
purposes of the food charges.
Anyone over the age of 13 is considered an adult for pricing menus. We
will not, of course, charge
you for the minors in regard to the bar since they obviously cannot
drink. As for the AA guest and
the DD, I'll waive the cost for them regarding the bar if you provide
me something in writing
stating that they will not drink and they provide their signatures on
the document.
Check: I haven't had time to check the post office since Monday but
will let you know when I
receive the check. Thanks for the update.
Doughty
So at this point it seems all is going well, Right? Wrong!
My Finacee and I contract a outside source to make a wedding website for us and our out of town guest. The website address was never given the Myrtles Plantation or any of their associates or employees. As it had semi private information on it. I received a call from the manager at the Plantation saying they have visited my wedding website and found some information that they didnt feel comfortable with on our website, Now the only indication of this wedding website that was published was via Myspace and I have a private profile. The title however was our wedding website So therefore some person from the Myrtles Plantation or Varnedeos restaurant has been searching for private information on myself. They proceeded to look through my website and came to a link that said
Myrtles Rules.
Apparently the link said something to the effect the Myrtles doesnt have access off the plantation at night food and drink are not allowed in the rooms hint hint hint be discrete
Glen contacted me on this issues as he was upset. I explained I am not the author of the website nor do I view the content of it on a daily bases However I would contact the webmaster immediately and have the content removed. And I did.
I called Glen back and told him the content had been removed and that I didnt need or want any trouble and not to worry as we have a open bar for 5 hours so why would any one need to bring food or drink to their rooms.
The following day I received and e-mail from Glen at the Myrtles Plantation.
Here is the E-mail.
Tina:
There are time and service issues that needs to be addressed.
As you know, your (yet unreceived) contract with us calls for a three
hour rental.
If your ceremony is at 5pm, all activities come to a close at 8pm.
We will not extend the time. Nor will we entertain another change in
the
scheduled time. We have other guests to consider, as your party did not
Rent the entire property as discussed.
Additionally, there will be no supplying of a bartender for an
additional two hours nor will there be any service of "pigs in a
blanket" by the restaurant. Varnedoe's and the myrtles plantation are
not "pigs in a blanket" sorts of places.
Please know that the myrtles plantation is not a party palace.
Should we find any ice chests, they will be confiscated in toto (chest
and contents) and they will not be returned. As i told you on the
telephone, any violation of our rules or any disturbances will be dealt
With immediately by the police. As anyone who knows me or the owners,
we are not the let's talk about it sort of people.
Any food or beverage service must be arranged with chef varnedoe's
consent.
There will be no further discussion of using your recipes or serving
food that is inconsistent with the style or reputation of this
internationally renown and award-winning chef and his restaurant.
If you find this not to your liking, there are other venues for your
wedding. However, as a courtesy, we will allow you to take photographs
On the grounds for one hour at no cost, if you like.
Please let me know if you would prefer to go elsewhere and i will begin
The refund process immediately on the rooms and your deposit.
Otherwise, we find that we shall require full-payment immediately for
the rental of the venue and any amounts due to the restaurant. We
are, because of what we have found on your web site and other
indications, uncomfortable with any other manner of payment. I'll
expect payment no later than monday for the venue and to the
restaurant.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Glenn
Please refer back to the contract I actually signed as I have two separate contracts.
I responded to glens Email I cant say I was too happy but who would be. When someone treats you like a dirt bag.
Here s is my correspondence
Dear Glen DeVillier,
I have read and your little letter. And found you seem very
personally
invested in the emotion of this letter as well did my legal
representation.
Mr. Mayer and I have several things I would like to address with you,
And your misconception of what it means to be under contract since
you
do not seem to comprehend the terms of agreement that have already
been set forth and agreed to.
First for your education purposes, let take a look at what exactly it
Means to be in breach of contract.
*The basic rule is that parties to contracts must perform as
specified*
*in the contract unless (1) the parties agree to the change in the*
*contract's terms, or (2) the actions of the party who deviates from*
*the terms of the contract are implicitly accepted ("ratified") by
the*
*action or non-action of the other party.*
If there is no acceptance of deviation from the terms of the
contract, and the deviation is serious enough to make any
real
difference in the intended result of the contract, then the deviating
party is said to have breached the contract. His justified
prevention or interference with the performance of the other party is
also a breach.
Of course if one party fails more or less entirely to perform the
contract, or totally prevents the performance of the contract by the
other party, the situation is straightforward. The situation becomes
more complex where the argument is over the quality of materials, the
timing of work,
or something of that sort.
Breach of contract leaves the non performing or improperly performing
party open to a claim for damages by the other party. The non-
breaching party is relieved of his obligations under the contract by
the other party's breach.
The aggrieved party, to help support his claim for breach, should
have done all the things required of him under the contract up until
the time of breach, and must have done nothing to make it impossible
or unreasonably difficult for the other party to perform his
share.
The non performing party can be expected to make excuses for his
conduct, and he will try to find ways to blame the other party—an
excellent argument for performing one's own side of a contract
punctiliously and in a manner that leaves a record which others can
see.
There are so many possible ways for performance of a contract to give
rise to dissatisfaction that the courts have been forced to analyze
the matter in much more subtle terms than "breached" or "not
breached."
The doctrine of
"substantial performance" saves a party who has
largely fulfilled his obligations under a contract from suffering
major loss merely because he has unintentionally fallen short in some
particular which does not affect the essence of the contract.
There has to be a limit to the quibbles of the dissatisfied customer,
for example, or the courts would be swamped with trials over precise
shades of paint and tiny
imperfections in services. A party can
unintentionally fall short of
perfection, but if he has substantially
performed his duties under the contract, he can still sue the other
party for payment.
The dissatisfied party, on the other hand, can usually win some
adjustment in the amount of payment as compensation
for the minor
defects in the performance.
Where a party's unintentional failure to perform fully does affect
the essence of the contract, he cannot sue the other party "on the
contract" in order to be paid. To the extent that his work has
benefited the other party, he may recover on the theory of a contract
implied by law (quasi-contract), as explained above.
*remedies*
The ordinary remedy for breach of contract is money
damages.
As we said earlier, a contract should always foresee the possibility
of nonperformance, intentional or
unintentional, and should spell out
what is to be done.
Some contracts go so far as to include an agreement on a set amount
of "liquidated damages" which are to be paid in case something goes
wrong. These are acceptable to the courts as long as the amount of
liquidated damages is a reasonable estimation of the harm that would
be done by the breach. If the amount is so excessive as to amount to
a penalty or fine rather than compensation for harm the courts will
ignore the liquidated damages clause and assess damages by
actually
measuring at trial the financial
harm done by the breach.
You should, unless the provision may pose a worse threat to you than
to the other party, specify in your contracts that if legal action
for breach is necessary, the losing party will pay attorney's
fees.
If you and the other party live in different
geographical
jurisdictions, you should try to include a provision which says that
the contract is to be enforced under the laws of your jurisdiction.
This makes it possible for any litigation concerning the contract to
take place in a court near your home.
The purpose of damages in suits on contracts is at best to place the
injured party in as nearly as possible the same position he would
have been in had the contract been properly performed, and at least
to restore him as nearly as possible to the position he would have
been in had he made no contract at all.in other words, no one
should suffer loss because another has failed to perform a contract
properly.
Where nonperformance is total, for example, the damaged party should
get back any money he has paid, along with additional money to
compensate him for any actual financial loss which resulted from the
nonperformance. The loss must have been a reasonably foreseeable
result of the nonperformance.
Do not expect, however, to receive money damages designed merely to
punish the
breaching party for dishonesty or bad behavior. Such
"punitive damages", which are possibilities in suits for personal
injury and other wrongs, are
not available in suits on contracts.
Of course if you can allege that you were defrauded, for example,
then you are suing for wrongdoing beyond the breach of contract,
and you may receive punitive damages.
The principals of damages in contract suits are as numerous as the
problems that can arise from contracts. All we have been able to do
here is to give some idea of the ramifications.
*fraud*
Accusations of fraud most frequently arise where some sort of
contractual situation is involved. Someone is induced to enter into
an agreement by a deliberate misrepresentation made by the other
party.
Here is a simplified version of the things which must occur in order
to establish a case for fraud:
1. D makes a representation about a fact.
2. D knows that the representation is false, OR he makes it with
complete and reckless disregard of whether it is true or not.
3. D intends P to rely on D's misrepresentations.
4. P does rely on D's misrepresentations.
5. As a result of his reliance, P suffers harm for which there is a
legal
remedy.
Here are some fine points which you will want to keep in mind when
dealing with people:
Mere silence may not be
fraudulent: D is not necessarily under a duty
to tell P what D knows. But a seller may be found guilty
of fraud if
he fails to tell the buyer about a hidden defect (latent
defect)
which would not be found through ordinary inspection. (The seller
must of course know about the defect before he can be responsible for
revealing it.)
Words are not necessary to create fraud: Actions which are calculated
to misrepresent something can be fraudulent. For example, a dealer
uses a car as a demonstrator for six months and then rolls back the
odometer and sprays the interior with new car
scent before putting
the vehicle on sale as a new car.
Fraud does not occur when a person promises to do something,
intending to do it, and then changes his mind and does not do it.
Fraud does occur when a person misrepresents his present intentions:
If D says to P, "If you'll buy this store, I'm leaving town and
taking my business with me, " and D's actual intention is to open a
larger, competing store across the street from P, then D is making a
fraudulent misrepresentation.
If you rely to your detriment on a person who
DOES mean what he says
at the time he says it, but who later changes his mind, your most
likely remedies are a suit for damages if there is a contract, or if
there is not a formal contract
, a suit in quasi based on
promissory
estoppel, depending on the circumstances. Those remedies are covered
above.
Opinions cannot be
fraudulent. If D says to P, "This foal is going
to be a really great racehorse, " and P buys the foal and it never
wins a race, P can't win a suit for fraud. On the other hand, if D
says, "This horse cost me $50,000.00, " but D actually paid much less
for the horse, and P buys the horse because he is impressed with its
value, then D may be guilty of fraud.
Finally, even if D knowingly makes a false representation of fact, he
may not be found guilty of fraud if P failed to find out the truth
when it was available to him through reasonable investigation. P is
not required, however, to exert himself unreasonably to verify
everything D tells him. If D gives P a financial statement which
doesn't have some obvious defect on its face, P is entitled to rely
on it rather than to hire accountants to go over D's books.
*what to do if you are a victim of fraud:*
1. If convenient, simply do not perform your obligations under the
contract. Then just wait for the other party to sue you. Use the
other party's fraud as your defense. For example, keep the horse but
stop making payments to the seller. When the seller sues you, you
can then ask the court to remedy all your losses which have resulted
from the seller's fraud. OR
2. Carry out your part of the contract and sue the other party for
damages caused by his fraud. Remember, though, that it is usually
better to let the other party go to
the trouble and expense of suing
you if you can arrange it that way. OR
3.instead of treating the contract as valid (as in 2), you could
rescind the contract, offering to return to the other person whatever
consideration you received from him, and suing him for the return of
whatever consideration you gave to him.
You cannot both confirm the contract (2) and rescind it (3), so you
would choose the remedy which will put you in the best position.
*exerpted from / The Desktop Lawyer / software program*
This documentation was supplied to us by our legal console, Mike and
I
really hope this isnt your intent.
As you have indicated you have not received the contract that was
mailed to you but yet you have processed the payment on January 17^th
in the sum of 350.00 as a down payment please refer to your
own
contract. There is no indication of when the final payment is due.
Verbally you and Hester have expressed that finally payment would be
due on the day that the event was to commence, that would be April
13^th.
Glen DeVillier, wrote the following in an email on March 12th
tina:
there are time and service issues that needs to be addressed.
As you know, your (yet unreceived) contract with us calls for a three
hour rental.
If your ceremony is at 5pm, all activities come to a close at 8pm.
We will not extend the time. Nor will we entertain another change in
the
scheduled time. We have other guests to consider, as your party did
not
rent the entire property as discussed.
*Tina responds: *
* *
In fact the wedding is to start at 5:30 where you state in the
contract we will have full use of the front and back galleries and
the
downstairs portion of the home. And the court yard area. For three
hours un disturbed as said by Hester, There for my interpretation of
this that none of your external guest may enter those areas while our
Wedding is in process as we have contract those areas for our
personal
use, knowing this there is entrances into those rooms that are via
the back verandas I suggest you may inform your guest that they may
not trespass while our services are under contract. Our services From
5-8:30P.M.
No matter what or how the entrances are designed that is leased out
space. And we do not and will not permit any of your guest to wander,
Or pass through are area that we have leased. While our contract
agreement is in place.
I understand that your guest may only enter via the Back overanda but
I guess you will have to make alternate arrangements. Until 8:30P.M.
As you have indicated in you contract.
Also there is no indication in the contract that we are to rent all
the rooms from the plantation, Please get your facts straight before
you make accusations of false pretense or assumed assumptions.
On to the next issue.
Glen DeVillier, wrote the following in an email on March 12th
additionally, there will be no supplying of a bartender for an
additional two hours nor will there be any service of "pigs in a
blanket" by the restaurant. Varnedoe's and the myrtles plantation are
not "pigs in a blanket" sorts of places
Yes, there will be a bartender supplied per my contract agreement as
it is in my contract agreement.in addition as much as you would like
to think of the Myrtles not as a Pigs in a blanket sort a place
apparently you are! And I ordered them! From your international renowned
award winning chef and his restaurant.
. Signed sealed, and paid for. Read your contract!
Again lets continue
Glen DeVillier, wrote the following in an email on March 12th
should we find any ice chests, they will be confiscated in toto
(chest
and contents) and they will not be returned. As i told you on the
telephone, any violation of our rules or any disturbances will be
dealt
with immediately by the police. As anyone who knows me or the owners,
we are not the let's talk about it sort of people.
You, the Myrtles or Vernedoes does not have permission to search, or
Confiscate any personal property of myself or my guest with out being
A law enforcement agent, or an agent with local, State, or Federal
government to perform a search warrant on all and any possessions. If
In fact you have been granted that permission by any federal, state
or
local authority recently, I would wish to see the warrant you have
been issued.
In fact I have done personal research with the department of defense
and they have told me that you Glen or the establishment known as
The Myrtles Plantation, Teeta Moss properties have no special
provisions that grant you the permission to search, and or confiscate
Any personal belongings that are not owned by you or the
establishment
that you work for.
I do agree I am the same as you, we will not talk about it sorta of
people. Did Teeta grant you permission to verify her personality
traits or is this another one of your assumptions that you presume
you
are connect to the owners on a alternative level other than business?
Employee and employer relationship or is that a liberty you took upon
Yourself, To speak on Moss properties behalf?
Just for your convince I will make sure to take special provision to
pack my personal belongings in a Ice cooler. Now that you know what
will be in there, might I suggest a X ray machine to be sure there is
No contraband prohibited by the Myrtles Plantation, it might cost a
bit more but apparently the investment is worth it to the company.
Glen Wrote on March 13^th
there will be no further discussion of using your recipes or serving
food that is inconsistent with the style or reputation of this
internationally renown and award-winning chef and his restaurant
Since you are not aware of agreements made between myself and
Vernendoes You are not at liberty to speak on their behalf as they
sublet from you. There for they are a separate business entity from
the Myrtles Plantation. With A separate LLc, or INC. They can speak
for themselves what they will or will not accept as they have already
Agreed to the terms of what I have requested.
Glen wrote on March 13
we will allow you to take photographs
on the grounds for one hour at no cost, if you like.
As well it states in your contract that the deposit is non
refundable however you state in the last paragraph that you will
return all monies involved. I hope you are well advised that
notifying
a person by E-mail is not a binding agreement just for your
educational purposes again. Nor changing the contract agreemen Via E
mail with with a person who is in full contract agreement with the
Myrtles Plantation and the restaurant altering agreed services after
contract signature. I am sorry to hear that there is poor
communication between you and your associates.
But enough of the small chatter lets go back into what is agreed on.
No where in your agreement does it indicate that that is a fee to
allow a person to take photos of our wedding at any time, place or
otherwise nor is this indicated in the caterring agreement. There for
Your claims are invalid. And I expect and demand that my original
contract is upheld. If your policies have changed I will expect to
see
notification written in signage on the grounds of the plantation that
All visitors are only allotted one hour to take photos. But that rule
Doesnt adhere to me since that was not in the pre contractual
agreement.
Again lets continue with this misconception of contract law.
Glen DeVillier, wrote the following in an email on March 12th
: please let me know if you would prefer to go elsewhere and i will
begin
the refund process immediately on the rooms and your deposit.
Otherwise, we find that we shall require full-payment immediately for
the rental of the venue and any amounts due to the restaurant. We
are, because of what we have found on your web site and other
indications, uncomfortable with any other manner of payment. I'll
expect payment no later than monday for the venue and to the
As well it states in your contract that the deposit is non
refundable however you state in the paragraph that you will return
all
monies involved. I hope you are well advised that notifying a person
by E-mail is not a binding agreement just for your educational
purposes again. Nor changing the contract agreement with a person who
Is in full contract agreement with the Myrtles Plantation and the
restaurant altering agreed services after contract signature. Unless
there is an adendam agreed upon by both parties as to the scheduled
date of final payment you have no right to demand, dictate, when
Monies are finalized at this time. We will be kind enough at this
time
to agree to a addendum in the contract of final payment at 12:01 A.M.
On April 14th of all fees owed to the Myrtles Plantation.
Now what I do need to know is your intent, I need to know if you are
intending to breach this contract set forth before you and as well
you
believe you have the liberty to speak on behalf of Veranedeos I will
need to see written consent provided by Vernadeos that you have this
permission. As well I need to know your intent if you plan on
honoring
my contractual agreement. I have been advised by my consol that we
should receive a response date no later that 12:01 P.M. Sunday 16^th
2008 as to what the intentions of the Myrtles plantations decisions
are? If you refuse to respond we will understand that you are no
longer interested in performing the agreement you have signed and
further action will commence by my legal aid. *
Warm regards,
From
Mr. Mayer & Miss, Reminga.
P. S As much as you would like me to back out I will not. As well this
Message has a return E-mail response and I will be notified to the
fact that this E-mail has been open and I fact read.in Addition for
your refreshment purposes, I have in fact in included you original
email sent to me on March 13^th please review the copied email
Below. As well as all contract that you can not seem find or confirm.
Please review your contracts and perform duties as interpreted in
this
contract this is not a request it is a demand! You will in fact find
A downloadable version of the contract of both you and Vernedeos.
Also
be advised that a copy of this has been sent to my legal
repesentation
if you feel the need to speak with him personally you may contact him
At *-*-* Chris * ESQ
Tina:
there are time and service issues that needs to be addressed.
As you know, your (yet unreceived) contract with us calls for a three
hour rental.
If your ceremony is at 5pm, all activities come to a close at 8pm.
We will not extend the time. Nor will we entertain another change in
the
scheduled time. We have other guests to consider, as your party did
not
rent the entire property as discussed.
Additionally, there will be no supplying of a bartender for an
additional two hours nor will there be any service of "pigs in a
blanket" by the restaurant. Varnedoe's and the myrtles plantation are
not "pigs in a blanket" sorts of places.
Please know that the myrtles plantation is not a party palace.
Should we find any ice chests, they will be confiscated in toto
(chest
and contents) and they will not be returned. As i told you on the
telephone, any violation of our rules or any disturbances will be
dealt
with immediately by the police. As anyone who knows me or the owners,
we are not the let's talk about it sort of people.
Any food or beverage service must be arranged with chef varnedoe's
consent.
There will be no further discussion of using your recipes or serving
food that is inconsistent with the style or reputation of this
internationally renown and award-winning chef and his restaurant.
If you find this not to your liking, there are other venues for your
wedding. However, as a courtesy, we will allow you to take
photographs
on the grounds for one hour at no cost, if you like.
Please let me know if you would prefer to go elsewhere and i will
begin
the refund process immediately on the rooms and your deposit.
Otherwise, we find that we shall require full-payment immediately for
the rental of the venue and any amounts due to the restaurant. We
are, because of what we have found on your web site and other
indications, uncomfortable with any other manner of payment. I'll
expect payment no later than monday for the venue and to the
restaurant.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
glenn
*/Glenn DeVillier /* wrote:
Tina:
There are time and service issues that needs to be addressed.
As you know, your (yet unreceived) contract with us calls for a
three
hour rental.
If your ceremony is at 5pm, all activities come to a close at
8pm.
We will not extend the time. Nor will we entertain another change
in the
scheduled time. We have other guests to consider, as your party
did not
rent the entire property as discussed.
Additionally, there will be no supplying of a bartender for an
additional two hours nor will there be any service of "pigs in a
blanket" by the restaurant. Varnedoe's and the myrtles plantation
are
not "pigs in a blanket" sorts of places.
Please know that the myrtles plantation is not a party palace.
Should we find any ice chests, they will be confiscated in toto
(chest
and contents) and they will not be returned. As i told you on the
telephone, any violation of our rules or any disturbances will be
dealt
with immediately by the police. As anyone who knows me or the
owners,
we are not the let's talk about it sort of people.
Any food or beverage service must be arranged with chef
varnedoe's
consent.
There will be no further discussion of using your recipes or
serving
food that is inconsistent with the style or reputation of this
internationally renown and award-winning chef and his restaurant.
If you find this not to your liking, there are other venues for
your
wedding. However, as a courtesy, we will allow you to take
photographs
on the grounds for one hour at no cost, if you like.
Please let me know if you would prefer to go elsewhere and i will
begin
the refund process immediately on the rooms and your deposit.
Otherwise, we find that we shall require full-payment immediately
for
the rental of the venue and any amounts due to the restaurant. We
are, because of what we have found on your web site and other
indications, uncomfortable with any other manner of payment. I'll
expect payment no later than monday for the venue and to the
restaurant.
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Glenn
At this point Glen and the Mrytles Plantation are in Breach of contract.
All I can say is I hope my future hubby and I have a wonderful day as of right now 3 weeks before our wedding I can honestly say I just dont know what is going to happen.
Would I refer anyone to them for an event absolutely not! Do I feel people should for warned on how they seem to conduct business absolutely. Do I want to be sued for Slander nope. That is why I am making this as accurate and with the documentation for all to see.
I will not state my opinion of what I really think of them and their business practices. You can be the judge and jury
But I can state that the stress has caused me tremendous amounts of tears and heartache.
Even if they intend to follow through with the contracts and not breach as they have stated. I still would not recommend them No bride to be needs this when trying to have a beautiful day.
From my experience the Myrtles Plantation and or representatives of them ave done research on their client personal life as that has happen to me.
Buyer beware: I am not as scared of the ghost as I am scared of the people who run that place.
Recent update
*,
I apologize for not responding to you by your deadline; however, I did not read this email until 1:00 pm today (March 15), at which point your deadline had passed. If you have contacted a Louisiana attorney because of my delayed response, please ask that your lawyer contact me directly. Since I am a licensed Louisiana lawyer myself, I'm sure I'll have no trouble communicating with him/her.
I am aware of the limitations imposed on you by The Myrtles Plantation and how those limitations affect our services regarding your wedding reception. Unfortunately, without their willingness to extend their services and time beyond what they have initially provided to you, there is nothing more I can do on my end. To provide you with our services will obviously extend the time frame that you and your guests are on the Myrtles' property, thus violating their rules.
While it may appear that Varnedoe's and The Myrtles share common areas, please make no mistake about the boundaries that Varnedoe's is entitled to as The Myrtles' lessee. The Myrtles owners merely allow us and our guests the use of a portion of their courtyard/premises when needed, on a short term basis like during our dinner shift.in the end, every bit of grass, cement, and gravel located here, do indeed belong to The Myrtles' owners and they may dictate its use as they wish. We can dictate rules for any party taking place under our roof, but that would mean renting out the entire restaurant, which you have already stated you are not willing to do.
As of this past Thursday (March 13), I have not received any money from you, but will not hesitate to return said money should I receive any. Furthermore, the "electronic signature" you provided on our contract is not valid. Please feel free to research the requirements of a vaild electronic signature on the internet. The information can probably be found on the same legal website on which you found the definition of "breach of contract law."
I think my position is clear, as is that of The Myrtles Plantation. Should anything change, I will notify you immediately.
Doughty Varnedoe
Hi Doughty,
Please give me a call. As you are well aware this is upsetting. But I do thank you for the nice let of explanation.
I just want to clairify some things I am not upset with your responce or the time as I am sure you are well aware I am just trying to get answers asap.
Please call me... I am rather conserned that the check hasn't arrived period I checked Mikes' bank account last night and noticed there wasn't any activity. IE the check hasn't been cashed.
I would like to know how you can place in your contract the following if you have no rights over the house? I do understand that this is a resonable request.
Client is responsible for any damages caused by them or any of their guests to our property and furnishings, the plantation house, its property and its furnishings. Your deposit amount does not apply toward the repair or cleaning of such damages.
As well I would like to understand how Glen can tell you what you can and can not or will not provide in serivces that were already undercontract per se. Ie certain food items and Bartender until 12A.M.
Thanks for your other information as it is helpful..
*, -
I do not wish to comment further or provide further explanation. I do not want to communicate by phone either. I think it is best to have all correspondence in writing. Glenn Devillier is mailing back your deposit today. I will check my post office box to see if your check has arrived. If it if finally found its way here, I will mail it back today as well.
Doughty
Ms. *,
Attorney Doughty Varnedoe is an ineligible member of the Louisiana State Bar Association. She is not able to practice because of non-payment of dues. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me, my information is below.
Thank You,
Maryja
Maryja Serigny
Membership Secretary
Louisiana State Bar Association
601 St Charles Ave
New Orleans, LA 70130
From: *]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19 10:36 AM
To: Maryja Serigny
Subject: RE: verification of lawyer
Hello Maryja,
Thank you for you're speedy response. Yes, In fact I do have futher questions that I need addressed. And in fact i need this in writting so I can keep copies for my records.
How long has it been since Doughty Varendoe been ineligble to practice in the State of Louisiana as a lawyer for non Payment of dues?
How long was Doughty Varendoe eligble to practice in the State of Louisiana. Dates and time if you could please
Thank you
She has been ineligible since 10/08. She was admitted to practice law in the state of Louisiana 10/06. I need your information to send you a copy of ineligibility of her practice. Please include your fax number, mailing address, and phone number incase we need to contact you for more information.
Thank You,
Maryja
Maryja Serigny
Membership Secretary
Louisiana State Bar Association
601 St Charles Ave
New Orleans, LA 70130
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