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Montres Franck Muller - Rolex - Omega
And Many Swiss Watch Brands ripoffs! Poor quality items, overcharge $1000s of dollars

Noticed the statement following this humorous (but-true) story and associate it towards the statement below the tale. Study these numbers on the prior study which was published for this website. They'll frighten you.

Our headache finally became true...
November 21 at 10:22 AM Jess (Login cesar57)

Hello, Everyone,

I'm carrying my Patek Aquanaut 5066 today at the office after I chose to reduce myself. No urinals were accessible and so I needed to make use of the toilet bowl.

When I was along the way I flexed my arm to enhance my goal a little, then all a quick the springbar about the 6 e' time haul launched, and before I'd an opportunity to respond my precious, months-aged Aquanaut was slap within the base of the bathroom pan, absorbed because disgusting fluid;- (

Before this there is no indicator of looseness or issues with the springbars, and because this can be a completely new view, used to do not necessarily consider them significantly.

Well I caught it out and cleaned it many times with palm soap, but my problem may be the aftereffect of urine about the gaskets.

Must I possess the view examined and/or even the gaskets changed? In the minimum I'm likely to demand from my seller a brand new group of springbars.

I thought the Blancpain friction hooks were a bummer to get rid of when changing straps, however they appear to be advisable today. Examine your spring bars, everybody I'm getting weird with one of these issues.

Thanks,
Jess

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Oh my! - Chuck P on November 21, 10:39 AM

I acknowledge n / Chuck G... - John on Nov 21, 12:00 PM

Relax... Neither the early or the soap will damage your view... - Evitzee on Nov 21, 12:49 PM

I agree... - Chuck P on November 21, 12:56 PM

take a look in the severe issues individuals have documented using their watches below. Some super-high-stop manufacturers have experienced some severe issues and also have terrible customer support. Have a look and discover anything.

listed here are the outcomes of the View Quality Study addressing this issue:

STUDY ISSUE
"Seeking To decide the % of fresh watches which have an issue throughout the first-year. Listing all of the watches you've bought (by produce and design) and any problem or, similarly essential, show when there is not a problem. Don't record accuracey mistakes if they're within 10s, -4s daily. If we get enough reactions I'll tabulate the outcomes and post an overview by produce."

OUTCOMES
We obtained 55 reactions addressing possession of 336 watches over a three-day interval (March 9-12). The outcomes of the study isn't at-all medical, especially for that smaller sample sizes. Additionally, a sizable most of the flaws were aesthetic or view precision. In the place of attract any findings I'll abandon it for you to do this and post your responses. Following a desk may be the real posted info to help you browse the facts and attract your personal findings. Incidentally, typically the most popular model one of the individuals is Omega. Others are various manufacturers by which their samplesize was usually 1-3.

Table of outcomes

The table below (which can not be aimed by using this application, has 3 numbers, the sum total quantity of watches of the manufacturer, the amount of these watches documented without any issues, and also the % of the watches documented with problems of any diploma, also small types)

Manufacturer (# watches - no problems - PERCENT probs),
others (78-59-0.24),
omega (43-32-0.26),
iwc (29-26-0.10),
jlc (23-15-0.35),
rolex (22-18-0.18),
minerva (18-10-0.44),
breitling (15-10-0.33),
seiko (15-10-0.33),
invicta (12-7-0.42),
patek (12-8-0.33),
blancpain (12-8-0.33),
zenith (11-8-0.27),
oris (7-5-0.29),
Us (7-5-0.29),
GP (7-6-0.14),
hamilton (6-5-0.17),
fortis (5-2-0.60),
panerai (5-3-0.40),
ap (5-5-0.00),
lemons (4-4-0.00),

(total 336 246 0.27)

Posted Information:

55 individuals

OMEGA 43 watches / 32 no issues
Omega Seamaster Qualified America's Mug - No Issues
Omega Seamaster Ladies 120 - No Issues
Omega Speedmaster Professional x 33 - No Issues
Omega Speedmaster Professional t/Show Back - No Issues
Omega SMP #2054.50 Ideal
Omega GMT on-strap Ideal
Omega SMP - No Issues
Omega Speedmaster - Car winding issue - set by Omega
Omega Speedmaster Racing LE - not a problem
Omega Seamaster: (quartz) Consumed three batteries in 11 weeks. Delivered to Omega and was set (only rarely) under warranty. No more issues.
Omega Speedmaster: No problems.
Omega Speedmaster Automatic (7751) - intermittant, then more mittant, and lastly complete, preventing. Omegais NYC service-center delivered it back again to me operating, but having a damage about the hour-hand and also the time register palm misaligned.
Omega Seamaster Pro Chrono - chronograph function turned defective, returned
Omega SMP Chrono NP
Omega Seamaster Pro: no issues
Omega Dynamic Chrono: no issues
Omega SMP Chrono: manual-winding resulted in experience of milling and opposition, set under warranty.
Omega Ladies Constellation, small measurement, half club (quartz) - not a problem
Omega Speedmaster Professional (purchased in 1992): straight-out of the container, incorrect resetting of chrono second accumulator, efficiently creating it to restart at 00:01: 00 in the place of 00:00: 00. Typical issue with this particular view, it appears. It had been quickly fixed with a watchmaker who had been acquainted with the issue.
Omega Speedmaster Professional, no issues (bought fresh 2 yrs ago)
Omega Seamaster "Bond" delivered back since the overhead was not messing along
Omega Seamaster Multifunction - over the last 3 years delivered back to Omega twice to repair/substitute electronic component (every time included in guarantee) - no issues in last 10 weeks
Omega Schumacher (aka Crayola) Fast Car - no issues in six months
Omega Constellation (girls) — no issues
Omega SMP Car NP
Omega Dynamic Chrono: Spring leaped out-of placement
Omega Speedmaster Reduced: No issues
Omega Seamaster — dirt on Call, ceased, hold failed
Omega Seamaster Pro Not A Problem
Omega Seamaster Pro Chronograph Not A Problem
Omega Speedmaster Moon View Not A Problem
Omega Double Day Not A Problem

Omega Speedmaster Professional: No issues
Omega x 33 - NP
Omega Seamaster NP
Omega Seamaster Professional Chronograph ETA7750:
As chronograph purpose of ETA7750 had divided 3 times, I delivered it to SWATCH Team Asia 3 times.
Omega Speedmaster Professional Chronograph Lemania861: not a problem
Omega Speedmaster Automatic ETA2894-2: not a problem
Omega Speedmaster Automatic MARK40 ETA7761: not a problem
Omega smp middle qtz np
Omega smp gmt np
Omega Constell.: No probs
Omega Seamaster Pro (Titanium)- no issues.

ROLEX 22 watches / 18 not a problem
I'd an issue having a Rolex Oyster Perpetual, steel & platinum, no day, that we purchased fresh from a certified dealer. After I got home and attempted to create the full time, I had been left using the overhead in my own hand. The view was changed having a new one.
Rolex Submariner - not a problem
Rolex Oyster Time - No issues
Rolex Time: Dropped as much as five minutes daily! Delivered to Rolex 3 times.
Rolex datejust (womenis dimension - for spouse): Delaying 12-15 sec/day
Rolex gmt-master two: No problems
Rolex GMT two - NP
Rolex Explorer two - NP
Rolex Subscription "G" serial np
Rolex Explorer I - no problems
Rolex OP Day - no problems
Rolex Datejust - No issues, offered view anyhow
rolex sub np - offered to assist purchase HD
rolex sub-SS / 18k np - offered to obtain wife band
rolex date-just np
Rolex GMT two - No problems
Rolex Yachtmaster - defective stem seal. Fixed. Band bad, on new band today. Operates completely.
Rolex Sub DAY: not a problem.
Rolex Submariner Not A Problem
Rolex Explorer I - no issues
Rolex OP Day - no issues
Rolex Submariner: No issues

IWC - 29 watches / 26 no issues

All IWCis good (5)
IWC Flieger mecaquartz - no issues
IWC Ingenieur 3521 - no issues
IWC Flieger - not a problem
IWC UTC - not a problem
IWC Portuguese Chrono - No issues
IWC Fleigerchrono - no issues
IWC UTC NP
IWC UTC np
Iwc flieger np
Iwc utc np
IWC Flieger - not a problem
: IWC UTC - not a problem
IWC Fleigerchrono—Poor call publishing/dirt; unfinished reset to zero
IWC Flieger Not A Problem
IWC Fliegerchrono: Base gasket failure. Delivered to IWC for alternative under guarantee, no issues since. (2 yrs)
IWC MK XII: No Issues
IWC Portugueser Automatic Chronograph - no problem
IWC Ingenieur: No issues
IWC Flieger mecaquartz - no issues
IWC Aquatimer: Link issue, set under warranty.
IWC Ingenieur 3521 - no issues
IWC Portuguese Chrono np
IWC Inge: Vulnerable final on band hold; touched-up at IWC, no probs since.
IWC Portu. Rattrapante: No issues

PATEK - 12 watches / 8 no issues
A Patek Philippe 5035 purchased fresh from a certified seller, was operating nearly one minute quickly each day. Im awaiting it to come back from Europe. Ive waited nearly four weeks now.
Patek 5035- not a problem
Patek 5036 not a problem (remains completely hurt with regular left-arm mvts.)
Patek 3802 not a problem (remains completely hurt with regular left-arm mvts.)
Patek 5035 - no issues (had 3 years)
Patek Girls moonphase 4857: not a problem
Patek Calatrava (I): Winding base drops off while trying to alter time. Fixed by independent watchmaker, no issues since.
Patek Calatrava (two): low quality control on unique call. Delivered to H. Firm for alternative. Delivered ideal.
Patek 5035 - NP
Patek Aquanaut - reduced book; set in one single week
Patek 5035 np

I'd several weeks of issues obtaining a fresh Patek 5035 controlled precisely.
It's to be delivered to Patek NY 3 times and lastly they got it right.
it had been an extended battle to understand this view the way in which it will will be in the
first place.

JLC - 23 watches / 15 no issues
JLC Master moon - getting 2minutes each day
JLC Reveil - discolouration of dial
JLC Master Moon - Inconsistent Winding held preventing - returned 3 months
JLC Reverso Duo NP
JLC Master Woman: delivered back for dirt on call, subsequently not a problem
JLC Reverso Duetto: not a problem
JLC Reverso Duo - no issues in a few months
JLC Master Reveil: No issues
JLC Master Time: No issues
JLC RDM - mainspring deficiency, fixed under guarantee, free bit of plastic in motion (billed for stress check although view under guarantee?!)
JLC RendezVous (girls) - no issues
JLC Reveil Not A Problem
JLC Ultra-Thin - NP
JLC Regional - used breaks and skips
JLC Reverso Duo NP
JLC Regional np
JLC Sunlight / Moon np
JLC Reverso Duo rose-gold np
jaeger lecoultre Reverso Gran'sport - not a problem
JLC GTaille: No probs.
Jaeger Le Coultre Master Moon - day palm nearly aligned correctly.
JLC Mecaquartz Chrono not a problem
JLC Reverso Day (hand-wound) operates over 10 moments quickly daily

BLANCPAIN - 12 watches / 8 no issues
Blancpain Moon Phase Half-Hunter - simply 30 days previous but still not a problem
Blancpain FF good
Blancpain Girls Flyback 2385: not a problem
Blancpain Aqualung - NP
Blancpain Flyback — not a problem
BP 1106 - really abnormal working; alternative had no issues
Blancpain 50F stoppage
Blancpain 50F Deployant lock smashed
Blancpain GMT stoppage
Blancpain 2100 Mil Moon - no issues
BP2100 Moonphase - no issues (had 6 months)
BP AL: No probs. (although end on sec. Fingers not "ideal")

MINERVA - 18 watches / 10 not a problem
Minerva Palladio DT - no issues
Minerva Palladio 24Hr - delivered back for modification when it demonstrated abnormal price
Minerva Pythagore II: not a problem
Minerva History, no issues (bought fresh 2 yrs ago)
Minerva Palladio "S", no issues (bought fresh twelve months ago)
Minerva Pythagore, no issues (bought fresh 2 yrs ago)
Minerva Pythagore - scratched fingers, damaged call, fixed under guarantee AOK, 10 weeks old.
Minerva Palladio "S" - no issues
Minerva Pythagore - no issues
Minerva Europeo - no issues
Minerva Rosegold Cal 49 - no issues
Minerva pythagore-no issues
Minerva Wedding - call faulty and changed, spring unsuccessful and replaced
Minerva Palladio GMT - equipment unsuccessful and replaced
Minerva Cal 49 dunes in the event end. Fiixed
Minerva Pythagore Ann. - turned 3 minute sluggish/day, broken keyless works, operating
Minerva Pythagore I - operates along in 7 hours, may hardly maintain period within 10 units/day, fixed three times in last six months without any pleasure.
Minerva Pythagore I (black call) np

GP - 7 watches / 6 no issues
A Girard Perregaux chrono GP4900 which just operates for some hours after I go off my arm. I purchased within the Caribbean, today I dont understand how to have it mounted.
All my GPs good (6)

ORIS - 7 watches / 5 no issues
Oris Classic Game / Diver - not a problem
Oris Jules Verne World Timer not a problem but has a tendency to operate 5 secs. Sluggish daily
Oris BC3 - no issues
Oris BC3 (40mm) — not a problem
Oris Classic XXL NP
Oris Big Overhead (girls) - no issues
Oris Big Overhead: Overhead had rusted

ZENITH - 11 watches / 8 no issues
Zenith El Primero Not A Problem
Zenith Type 4 El Primero: Free metal band link hooks, categorized under guarantee, but this issue hasbeen typical to my three Peak acquisitions to date.
Zenith Chronomaster Moonphase NP
Peak Port Royal Chrono - believed I'd an issue however it went away, therefore no issues - (had 8 months)
Zenith Chronomaster Multiple diary - very intermittant failure to progress diary (s) - have not delivered it in however; it nevertheless has more than 3 years left about the guarantee.
Peak Class 4 El Primero - not a problem
Peak Course El Primero not a problem
Zenith Type 4 - no issues
Zenith Elite DT - dirt under dial
Peak Port Royal El Primero-No issues
Zenith Chronomaster-no issues

BREITLING - 15 watches / 10 no issues
Breitling Superocean - No issues
Breitling Blackbird - No issues
Breitling Aerospace - haul dropped down, band spring fatigued
Breitling Navitimer 92-no issues
Breitling Chronomat 98—calendar failed; driver bill dropped off
Breitling Aerospace-no problen
Breitling Montbrilliant-dirt on dial
Breitling B2 - No issues, however the many unpleasant view I Have actually used; delivered to seller for reimbursement.
Breitling Callistino — no issues
Breitling Antares Globe — bezel driver bill somewhat free
Breitling SuperOcean Skilled-not a problem
Breitling SuperO Pro NP
Breitling Old Navitimer - No issues
Breitling Chrono Colt Automatic - chrono hours not aimed to guns on subdial, chrono hours occasionally proceed to operate after ending chrono. Not delivered for fix however, retains excellent occasion.
Breitling Montbrilliant Eclipse - not a problem.

SEIKO - 15 watches / 10 no problems
Seiko 200m diver: not a problem
Seiko Diveris 200m - no issues, but operating about 20s / time.
Seiko Diver 200m Automatic - no issues (except the bright evening and day bands)
Seiko 5 - No issues
Sieko Kinetic auto exchange not a problem
Seaiko automated 26 treasure, weekdater not a problem
Seiko Car Diver 200: no issues
Grand Seiko: No probs
Seiko S Wave - runnning 28secs (all my Seikos be seemingly unbelievably quickly when new - could it be simply me?) self-regulated to 3secs, 20 weeks old.

Another S Wave (at 25) was controlled under guarantee to -INCH secs by Seiko UK - supreme quality support -, three years old.
Great Seiko quartz - no issues
Seiko Diver 200m Pro - No issues
Seiko Kinetic - Began producing ACTUAL running sounds - returned four weeks
Grand Seiko quartz - no issues
Seiko Alpinist - operating 23secs, self-regulated to 2,a few months old.

PANERAI - 5 watches / 3 no issues
Panerai GMT - NP
Paneria Luminor Power Book - No issues
Panerai Luminor GMT - No issues in 1 5 years.
Panerai Luminor Power Book not a problem even though it also might not remain completely hurt with regular left-arm mvts. (you'd believe the weight of the view might maintain the rotor spinning).
Panerai-might need complete breeze to obtain the motion to "begin" if it'd been sitting around in my own secure for some months

AP - 5 watches / 5 no issues
All APis good (3)
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak np
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak chrono np

Invicta - 12 watches / 7 no issues
Invicta-8114... Not a problem
Invicta 8926: went from -4 / day-to -40 / evening during 1st 6 months
Invicta 8926 np
Invicta 8926 "Subscription" - "slow" used, but nonetheless retains appropriate precision.
Invicta 8926 - misaligned dial - gone and never overlooked
Invicta Sub: No problems.
Invicta 8926 no problems.
Invicta 8926 - not a problem
Invicta - not worth sporting
Invicta Sub—no issues
Invicta 8236 (automated, not the "subscription") - overhead posts removed, however expecting fresh overhead
Invicta 8926 delivered back to Ashford, to
arrange Bezel, and repair, sticking used, at 23 units about the call... Set, in
6 times! But set by Sean McNamara, obviously

HAMILTON - 6 watches / 5 no issues
Hamilton Khaki chrono I simply delivered it for guarantee support, the chrono used was heading from the difficult ticking to working easy.
Hamilton Khaki Chrono - No Issues
Hamilton Atlantis two - No Hamilton Khaki Car-not a problem
Hamilton day-date Chrono: not a problem issues
Hamilton Viewmatic-no issues
Hamilton Khaki Guide - NP

US - 7 watches / 5 no issues
Ulysse Nardin 1846 np
US 1846 01 — dirt / steel on dial
Us 1846 99 — no issues
UN1846 - no issues (had 2 yrs)
US 1846 LE good
US 1846: Was -6sec / day trip of container; 0.5sec / time after legislation.
US GMT Perp: No probs

LEMONS - 4 watches / 4 no problems
Lemons Chyro chrono, not a problem
Lemons nighflight-no problems
Lemons Outback NP
Limes Nightflight INCH - No problems, 15 mths previous

FORTIS - 5 watches / 2 no problems
Fortis No Issues! Cosmonaut, and flieger
Fortis Pilots Car - Simply purchased
Fortis Pilot Car: After 12 months, started ending randomly, unknown situations. 2 local watchmakers could not correct and sometimes even determine the issue. Helvetia Period, Fortis' supplier, fixed it — at free. View nevertheless operates completely 5 years later.
Fortis Cosmo Diveris — damage between lugs, 6 to 15 sec. / time when used, 16 to 27 sec. / time relaxing in secure

ADDITIONAL - 78 watches / 59 not a problem
Lange Saxonia - small flaw on dial; set
Franck Muller 5850 casablanca np
Breguet XX: Back Again To store 3x, however issues.
FM MasterB: No probs.

Ebel 1911 Modulor Chrono - Inconsistent Winding - changed 7 days
Ebel 1911 Modulor Chrono - Ceased Winding rotor disconnected! - returned 14 days
Schwarz Etienne Trip Control - additional "stick" between gem and case-back, quickly eliminated with blade.
Fortis Cosmonaute Chrono - overhead line removed - set by Fortis
Poljot 3133 - chrono pushers got loose - back from fix in Spain, performing excellent
Swatch Automatic - no problems
Swatch Car Paradox Skeleton (Body and Spirit) np

Glycine Fight - no problems
Glycine KMU-46 - went quickly 20 sec / day

Rado - No issues, offered watch
LABEL S/eL Chronograph quartz - "free" band, offered view.
PROCEED Senator Navigator - not a problem.

RGM Chrono — not a problem

Davosa Skeleton - No problems
Wenger "official" view - No problems
Princeton Chronograph (bought New-Old Stock) - No issues, gem scratches quickly, though.

Bell & Ross Classic 126 - No issues in 2 yrs.
Bell&Ross classic 123 speck of tritium on-edge of call

Tutima FX UTC Car - no issues in 12 months
Ventura Pride (big) — not a problem
Tissot Ballade car (girls) — overhead sprang down, but occurred beyond first-year of possession

DJR Bressel Chrono - After just five or six wearings, overhead wouldn't take out to create period; guarantee fix required greater than a month.
Resident Difficult Ti Ecodrive - totally ideal, 13 weeks old.

Kobold Strength A - NP
Kobold Pro W - inadequate end, including overhead that didn't chair precisely on-side of situation; additionally noted "waterproof" on again
Glycine KMU-46 - went quickly 20 sec/day

Movado 1881: No issues
Movado ss 1881 car (girls) — no issues
Movado Esperanza (quartz) no issues in 5 years (not really a battery change!)

Jean Marcel - -20sec. / time
Incursore, have possessed 4! No Issues
Baume&Mercier Malibu Chrono: Band falling apart
Heuer Monaco re edition: No issues
Tudor King Day Submariner: Gun placement 0 on bezel dropped out
Nomos Tangente: No issues
John picot regulatuer - moments sign free

All N&S good (3)
N&S Aerodyn Duo np

Chopards good (4)
ikepod good
piaget good
Label 4000 Line - NP
Rado Diamaster - NP
Silberstein Bodoni - NP
Chopard Mille Miglia NP
DJR Military - no issues
Krieger automated - overhead threading deficiency, overhead changed under guarantee
Hebdomas 8 Times Ascot - no issues
RT Airspeed-no issues
Epos Moonphase-not a problem
Hubot Stylish - not a problem
Cartier Santos - not a problem
Waldan multiple time moonphase chrono: not a problem
Poljot Chrono: not a problem
Tag Heuer Link Car - not a problem
Revue Thommen Leap Time - not a problem
Longines Conquest Vegas M. 990 automated, Conqest quartz M. 161, Platinum plateed Automated, them all not a problem
Bulova King not a problem
Raymond Weil not a problem
Wenger dark call not a problem
Mido sea star datoday, quartz not a problem
EPOS Rectangle Leap Time - no issues
LifeStyle Titan - german-made 25J ETA 2824-2 in Titanium - no issues
Muhle Glashutte Traveler t / power-reserve - is only going to remain < 1/4 wound if worn all day and night taken off only to shower; also can't see only the hour hand in the dark (important for me who gets calls at night and who doesn't want to turn on the lights to wake my wife). The luminous minute hand and indices are otherwise uniformly bright.
Paul Picot Firshire power-reserve COSC certified chronometer a laugh since it operates 15 to 20 seconds quickly daily and it has in the day-one.

Maurice Lacroix Croneo — dirt on dial
Maurice Lacroix Calendrier Retrograde - not a problem

Tutima Nato - no issues


Offender: Montres Franck Muller - Rolex - Omega

Country: USA   State: New York   City: Geneve
Phone: 2125489525

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