I purchased a Yaesu FT-8800 ham radio from Ebay seller ESTOPELECTRONICS. He also has 2 websites www.THEANTENNAFARM.com & www.ESTOPELECTRONICS.com. The item sold on ebay for $369.95 with a shipping fee of $9.95 and I sent him a total of $379.90 within seconds of the auction ending via PayPal.
I never recieved the item that I paid for. When contacting UPS with the tracking info they said that acording to the tracking info it was left on the front porch. It was either stolen from the front porch or their is some funny business going on with UPS. I contacted the seller and told him that I never recieved the item. He claims that because he shipped the item on his UPS billing act using my UPS account as the billing method that I was the one that would have to file a claim through UPS.
I contacted UPS and they stated that the shipper is the one and only person that can initiate a claim or a tracer on the shippment. I again contacted the shipper/seller and told him what UPS said and he said well that is not right and eventually he contacted them and iniated a tracer on the package. The seller scanned the claim documents and posted them on his website and provided me with the link and they stated that the claim has been approved and they were not able to find the item.
I contacted the seller again via email stating to him that I wanted the origional radio that I paid for and he said that he would not upgrade the shipping for free even after all of the crap I have had to go through with this horriable purchase. He would not upgrade it so I told him to just mail me a check then I thought to myself I had better not do that because of his actions so far I dont trust him then I informed him to refund it back to my PayPal account the same way that I paid him for the item. He didnt respond to my email all day then he finally did and here is the email that I recieved.
Obligations for the release of funds have been sent to your eBay account. Please log onto your eBay account to release obligations of sale. Thank you and good day
The Antenna Farm
www.theantennafarm.com
I logged into my ebay account and their was nothing their nor did is say anything about this. This is just another way for this individual to try to get out of paying me my money. Here are some other emails I have recieved from him.
Hi
I called UPS a few minutes ago, I explained the circumstances and they told me that the claim has been approved in their system. I can go ahead and ship you a replacement tomorrrow or give a refund.
As far as waiting? No, this is NOT normal but neither was this transaction.in 7 yrs in business I have never had a loss when shipping on someone elses account. Plenty of loss when shipping with my own. Remember we both were under the impression that you had to make the claim since it went on your account. This caused a long delay in getting this done. Under NORMAL circumstances a replacement would have been issued immediately and shipped overnight. Remember. We all live in a world full of human beings. I am one of them and I am not immune from error or misjudgements and I assume you fall in that catergory as well.
You will be able to get the UPS charges that fell on your account for the next day air charges by calling UPS and requesting them (if you have'nt done so already). They will be able to check that the claim for the pkg has been made and they will refund your shipping charges.
Your charges on my account:
Ground... 0.00 due
2 day air... 29.11 due
Next day air saver... 51.50 due
Next day air... 56.90 due
The Antenna Farm
www.theantennafarm.com
See so right their he is stating that he will refund me my money or send me another radio tomorrow which would be April, 5 2006.
Yes. I think at this point a refund would be best. Since you have moved sending merchandise to a different address other than what's listed in the original sale on eBay and your Paypal confirmed address is not in accordance with credit card agreements, eBay or Paypal policy. Thus neither one of us would be covered under credit card user agreements and would put us both at jeopardy.
A check in the amount of $369.95 will be mailed to:
Correct?
Address Deleted
The Antenna Farm
www.theantennafarm.com
Thats kinda weird cause he sure accepted my credit Card payment through PayPal. It was good enough for him to accept but now PayPal is not good enough for him to send me back my money. This is just another way of stalling or trying to get out of refunding me my money. And he is only saying that he will refund me $369.95 when I sent the guy $379.90.
Then he emails me this which is totally counterdicting his previous email.
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 10:38: 38 -0400
Hi
I cannot refund the original Paypal payment since it has been over 60 days. The only way I can do anything with Paypal at this point would be to SEND you the funds... If I did this however Paypal would charge you a fee as if you were receiving funds for payment. If you are ok with these fees ($8-$12) I will do that for you, otherwise I can send you a check
The Antenna Farm
www.theantennafarm.com
So I agreed to having PayPal take their fees out. If would be better than not getting nothing at all from this guy. Then after he send me this email stating that he would refund me my money via PayPal he send this email.
Hi Mr Jones
Regardless of how you feel this transaction will be handled in a legal way and while observing eBay and Paypal policy. A check in the amount of $379.90 shall be sent to the address you provided below. Once the certified bank check has been cashed obligations surrounding this transaction will be satisfied. This is what the law requires and is the same your local DA (had this been a local transaction) would expect out of me.
Address Deleted
Good day
The Antenna Farm
www.theantennafarm.com
Then he states now that he will not send me back my money via payPal but he will send a check instead. I stated to him that I will not accept any other form of refund except via PayPal bacause its safe and if he tries to pull something off PayPal will investigate it. So now he styates that he is going to send me a check which I doubt that I will ever recieve. I have completely and totally informed him that I will not accept any money from him other than PayPal.
This is nothing but a way for him to either scam me or he is broke and has to rake up the money to give to me. Apparently he already spent the claim check from UPS. Im also going to call UPS and see how much he made the claim out to be. I have a feeling that he gave them a amount over that what he should have. If he has I will contace the UPS invistiagtions dept. I am also contacting his local DA, Police dept, His states attorney generals office regarding Cyber crimes and the FBI. This situation has gone on for too long and he is just making it worse. Just look at his emails that he sent to me. You can clearly tell that something is not right on his end.
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