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Concours Auto Sales
500 S Congress Avenue
West Palm Beach, FL 33406
Tel: 561-640-0111
This crap dealer hosted a liquidation sale in Port Saint Lucie. I went there, saw a 1999 Chevy Venture and a salesperson comes up and asks me if I like the vehicle. I have not even test drove it yet. I ask him how much it costs and he says that he cannot tell me a price! What a load of bullsh*.
I agreed to test drive the vehicle. It seemed to have a starting problem, but the vehicle was fine overall.
After the test drive, the manager comes over and introduces himself. Then he asks me to get registered before they will give me ballpark figures on the price! I don't know why I did so, but I registered. About 15 minutes later, (that's right it takes 15 minutes just to get the price of the vehicle, they are probably figuring out how to scam people) this fat old guy comes back with a sheet of paper and says that the loan balance on this car was 13,000 something but they are trying to sell it for "only" 10,600.
I said, "That vehicle is not worth that much." Then the bastard says, "The Venture has power everything, dual sliding doors, and alloy wheels. It cost 28 or 29 grand when new." I am buying a used car, not a new car so why do these people quote me the price of a new one? I said that it is still not worth that much and he asks me how much do I think it is worth? I said that I do not know, then he sarcastically replies, "Then how do you know it is not worth that much?" People have a sense of value you dumbass. Then he repeats that the loan value is 13,000 and we are selling it for 10,600 and I tell him that the loan has become upside down. Then he replies, "Thanks for the business lesson" very rudely and goes off to talk to his buddies.
I should have left at that point, but I stayed and the bastard comes back and asks me how close can I get to 8,000 and that he was giving me an additional 2 grand off and asks me to make him an offer.
I told him to put it on vmrintl.com and the vehicle would not even come close to 8,000. Then he sinisterly replies, "Lets check Kelly Blue Book or NADA to get the REAL value of the car." I say to him that KBB and NADA are biased for dealer benefit and he becomes rude saying that "You think you know everything." He then asks me what my offer his and I tell him 6,000 although in hindsight I would not have paid 6,000 for that vehicle. He says that is not an offer and very rudely says some smart remarks and I leave.
Being the a*hole that I sometimes can be, I walk over to the local Publix and grab a copy of the Auto Trader and AutoMart and I go back and place it on his table. I tell him, "Look at that I can get vans much cheaper in there." He has nothing to say to me but then his buddy comes up to my face and yells, "You do not come here and throw stuff. Our cars come with warranties. You cannot get a car with a warranty at that price." I say that I can easily find something in there with a warranty. Then he screams, "If you don't like the way we do business then..." I walked off, I do not know what he said.
Here is how this scam operates. These jacka*es buy repossessed vehicles from banks and then try to sell you the vehicle at the loan balance. But the loan balance includes the previous owners INTEREST so if you pay cash for the vehicle you are paying the interest and principal of somebody else's loan. Why should you pay for someone else's interest? If you were financing, you would be paying interest on top of the interest.
In all, I would NEVER do business with these people. This is a very shady operation. I have never been treated worse at any dealership and I hope these people rot in hell for scamming people.
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