They also use different names for their scam "company". The best way to identify them is if they call you from this phone number: 1-757-368-3623 in Norfolk Virginia. I could say alot about them, but bottom line they are another fraud "debt collector" that lies and tries to intimidate people. Best advice, do as I did: Report them to the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISION. The FTC phone number is: 1877-FTC-HELP.