I was on the internet in October trying to find ads to purchase a puppy for my family. I came across an ad on Oodle.com about two miniature pinschers that were for sale. I messaged the seller, asking for more information and for pictures. They had two miniature pinscher puppies for sale. 1) male, 1) female. The first email told me all about them, and was written (typed) decently. I continued to inquire about them, and they became more and more sketchy and suspicious. My instincts started to take over and I became extremly skeptical. The "woman" claimed that she was trying to re-home these two puppies for her son. She said he was going to school to become a medical doctor and that he did not have time to properly care for them anymore. She stated that they were only asking for a delivery fee for a transportation company to bring these puppies to my home. The cost of this delivery would be $200.00 per puppy. I kept asking for hers and her sons contact information, as well as the Delivery company and the Vet's phone numbers. I wanted to verify that this was indeed legitimate. She kept ignoring my requests, but eventually gave me the number to her son - who she claimed was in the UK at this time - even though she said he was in NY previously. The number she gave me was 07023011657. Naturally I googled the number before deciding to call it. When I did so I found another complaint on here for a William Rolly, etc. It was a very similar scam that an individual had reported from the United Kingdom.
The emails went as followed:
From: Jackbilly Ferdynan
To: Ms. Layla
Sent: Tue, 13 Oct 09:38: 54 0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For
Sale
Hello Dear,
Thanks so much for contacting us regarding our puppies. We have two available. These puppies are extremely cute adorable, Champion
bloodlines. Family raised, Well-socialized. Health guaranteed, vet checked. Micro chipped, Pre-spoiled and up to date on shots and vaccination. They are 11 week old presently and will come with all registration papers up to date. The Puppies will cost you 200 $ Each. I am a single mother and i presently live and
work in ARIZONA, BOUSE AZ. Actually we are looking for a new family for Our little puppies. They are now Available to any one that can afford to take care of them. The puppies belongs to my Son who works as a medical doctor and he has traveled with the puppies to Inverurie,
Aberdeenshire, Albany New York to start a new job. He called me a couple of days ago and told me that, he is unable to take care of the puppies because he works for 10 hours a day and he usually goes out of town for seminars
and
research and spends about 2 weeks away. Unfortunately, he can't send the puppies to me because, I go to work at 8 am and only
come back after 9pm and I am very much busy like him. So, my son and I have decided to give the puppies completely for rehoming to anyone who would be able to provide the puppies with the care and attention they needs. But if you will be able to travel up to Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, Albany New York, and pick up the
puppies, he will be very happy, But if you can't, You don't have to be worried about any thing coz he will be sending the puppies to you through pet transportation service and they will get the puppies delivered down to you at your doorsteps. All you would need to pay is 200 $
and you will be paying the money directly to the transportation service Okay. All what he needs to know is that the puppies are going into a lovely and caring home where they will be well look after and keep him up dated with
monthly
progress that way he will be very pleased and knows that the puppies are doing well.
Where are you
located?
Do you have any kids?
Have you ever own a pet before?
Have you ever own this breed of puppy before?
Why are you interested on this breed?
How soon do you need the puppy over?
Which sex are you interested on?
If you are interested in rehoming one of the puppies and can't travel over to
pick him or her up, Do email us back with your full contact details so we can arrange for the transportation of the puppy to your home first thing tomorrow morning. Also we need the details so my Son can prepare the change of ownership from his names to yours. The
information we shall need is as follows.
Full names
home address
zip code
city
mobile line
land line
email address
When we have all your details, My son will arrange for the transportation first thing in the morning and he will email you and let you know how every thing is going.
Best
Regards
Cheers
From:
Ms. Layla
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
To: "Jackbilly Ferdynan"
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 4:43 PM
Good Morning,
Which puppy is the boy and which is the girl? Unfortunately, we would not be able to make the trip to NY due to obligations to work. My
name is Ms. Layla. I live with my fiancee in Chicago. We currently have a 3 yr old Min. Pin. She is the most spoiled and loved puppy that I have ever heard of. We love her as though she was our child. We have been wanting to expand our family for quite some time, but are not yet
ready to have human children lol. Our puppy would love to have a friend to play with on a regular basis. Are you and your son okay with separating the puppies? I don't think we would be able to take more than one at this time. If it were up to me we would take them both, but I know my fiancee would
only allow one right now. I would have no problem keeping your son updated on the puppy, if we were to get it. I have come to love the miniature pinscher breed. Our puppy has brought so much joy to our
lives. She was the best present we could have ever given ourselves. We feel that we have so much love to give and would love to add on to our little
family. So, would the total cost be 400.00 or is the transportation cost the only thing you are asking to be paid? Please get back to me when you are able. I will then discuss everything with my fiancee and we would pick a date - probably this weekend - if that works for you two.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Ms. Layla
From: Jackbilly Ferdynan
To: Ms. Layla
Sent: Tue, 13 Oct 19:30: 57 0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
Thanks for the mail,
well you are going to pay just the delivery fee of this puppy, and you will have to pay this money but to the delivery company so that they can buy and acttivate the delivery cards of this puppy so you will pay
them just $200 for the delivery cards ok the brown is the male and the black one is the female so which of the sex will you like, there is no problem for that separating them from him ok, thanks for you to have that love on this puppy, so all i need from you, just your delivery information so that i
can go and meet my son vet doctor so that he can change the ownership papers from his names to your names, and form there i will drive to the delivery company so that they can registered this puppy for a home delivery ok and as soon as i have finish with the registration of this puppy the delivery company will contact you and they are going to tell you
on how you are going to make the payment of $200 to them so that they can buy a delivery
card of this puppy befor they can proceed delivery, that will be first thing tomorrow moning, you have to promiss me that you are going to take good care of this puppy, so you hae to send me your delivery
information so that i can do all the arrangement, do get back to me with your delivery information.
From: Ms. Layla
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
To: "Jackbilly Ferdynan"
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 8:06 PM
We definitely would like to get these puppies. I will send you all my info. Do I pay the delivery company upfront or when
they drop them off? If it is upfront, I will need to wait until friday, which is the day my fiancee and I get paid, cuz we just got done paying a bunch of bills. Would this be a problem at all? I hope not. How long will it take for them to get here from the day that they leave?
My name is Ms. Layla Smith My address is *
Chicago, IL My phone number is *
I am so excited. You have seriously made my day. I promise that these puppies will be taken very well care of and spoiled rotten:) How much do they currently weigh? How big do you anticipate they will get. Our puppy is
a very little thing lol. She is only 5.5 lbs. I can't wait to go home and tell her that she is getting new friends to play with.
What are yours and your son's names? Will I be contacting him with update through this email address or a different one?
From: Jackbilly Ferdynan
To: Ms. Layla
Sent: Wed, 14 Oct 10:15: 07 0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
Thanks for the mail,
and you have to pay this money
upfront so that they can take this money and buy and activate the delivery card of this puppies so that they can proceed the delivery if this delivery card is not isuite this puppies cant be deliverd ok, so i will tell them that you are going to have money but on friday, so i will pleat for the delivery manager so that he can hold on with the delivery till friday, so on friday you will need to be at home so
that you are going to sing the furm that the delivery driver will give to you that is to show that you have reasive this puppies, so please take good care of my puppies and i promiss you that they are going to make a good family to home, this, miniature pinschers will grow to 6 to 8 inches and weigh
between 8 and 10 lbs. Please you have to take good care of this puppies, i am going now to meet my son vet doctor so that he
can change the ownership names from my son names to your names the from the i will drive to the pet delivery company for this puppies to be registerd for a home delivery, so on friday they are going to contact you and tell you how you are going to make the payment to them so that they can buy and acctivate the delivery card of this puppies for a home
delivery,
God bless you and your family,
From: Ms. Layla
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
To: "Jackbilly Ferdynan"
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2:22 PM
That sounds great. How long would the delivery take? Are they coming from New York? Do they put them in a crate for the drive or how does it work exactly. I am just curious what these little angels will be going through. I also want to know if I should have them delivered directly to my home or to my work place. Do they give an approximation of the expected delivery time? What is the delivery company's name and information, so that I make sure to answer their call? Could I please have yours and your son's names, phone numbers and contact information as well? I would just like to be able to contact you if they don't arrive as scheduled, and also you said that you would like me to keep your son updated on
how they are doing in the future.
From: Jackbilly Ferdynan
To: Ms. Layla
Sent: Wed, 14 Oct 16:11: 19 0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
Thanks for the mail,
they are the one to tell as soon as this puppie are coming ok, and they will be coming with their crate, they will be coming to your
homes and you need to be at home as soon as they arrive your home you will have to sing the document of ownership papers so that to be sure that you have recive this puppies ok, my names are (Eden williesm jackson) and my son names are (Eden peter anderson) and you have northing to be worry of you just have to be in happy mine, so as i went to registered this puppies i told them that this puppies have to be delivered but on friday, and they said they are going to contact you and tell you the time they will arrive your home, and they are going to call you they will tell you all what you will have to do so you have northing to be worried about so please just stay calm, and as soon as youi recive this puppies please do
let me nkow,
Thanks,
Okay. Thank you! I will do so. Is there anyway I could speak to you or your son over the phone? I just have a few more questions. Thank You very much.
Ms. Layla *
From: Jackbilly Ferdynan
To: Ms. Layla
Sent: Wed, 14 Oct 17:37: 19 0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
Thanks for the mail,
well my son is now at his jop side so he cant be there for 2weeks i have spoken with him and everything is fine and he has giving me the go a heart is just because he cant be here that is why he told me to handle everything ok, and i can only give you me house number but i am not always at home i will be at work so if there is any problem you can write me if that ok by you, and you can ask me the questions. Do get back to me,
From: Ms. Layla
Subject: RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
To: "Jackbilly Ferdynan"
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 5:42 PM
T0: Ms. Layla
From:
Jackbilly Ferdynan
Subject:
RE: Miniature Pinscher Puppies For Sale
Thanks for the mail,
well sir for the moment now my son he is working in UK for now but if you want to speak with him i will still give you the number that he is using there, so that you can tolk with him ok, then wen you finish he will tell me what to do next, and you have nothing to be worry off, so please why we are giving this puppies out becouse this puppies are at home all a lone, so that is why, and we need a better home for this puppies, please let me give you my son number (07023011657) you can call him and tolk to him then he will get back to me and tell me what to do ok, so please this is not a scam ok, so please call my son so that you can tolk better and and see let no body tell you that this is a scam you see these puppies they are so meny people who want this puppies and i have choosen to give them but to you why because it seam like you are a serious person which means you are going to take good care of these puppies please you have promiss me that you are going to take good care of these puppies, as soon as you talk with my son do get back to me so that these puppies are to be delivered tomorrow first thing in the morning so you have to clear your mine as soon as you have speak with my son ok he is the one to tell you all you have to know, and please you know that these delivery is going to take places tomorrow morning so you have to call my son and talk to him so that you can fick all thing for this delivery ok,
do get back to me if your mine is please.
I finally responded by telling her that I was no longer interested and to please stop contacting me.
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