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Complaint / Review
Paul Simon Chicago Job Corps
Job Corps, Paul Simon The Educational Blackmarket

Ok so I wanted to write this report for two reasons.

One is to let people know whats going on for the people that are to afraid to speak for themselves and two is to just get knowledge out there for their wrong doings.

First though I wanted to let people know I am telling what happened to me and my story as to why I'm making this report, then I am going to make another report going as far back when I first entered this program to write about some pretty... Unusal experiences with staff.

This incident happened just two months before I was almost graduated out of this program.

Paul Simon Chicago Job Corps is set up where there are three dorms: North, South, and West. North is all girls, South is all boys, and West is divided between boys and girls.

This incident happened at West dorm, it was on a weekend night and it was pretty late (almost past curfew, but curfew is at 10:30P.M. On weekends,) this incident occured right before 10:30P.M. And lasted almost till eleven by the time I got back to my dorm.

We were outside and I was talking amongst two friends (we will call them friend A and friend B, as not to get confused and not to put their names out there.) I was trying to convince friend B not to leave because many people leave over one thing at Job Corps, its usually drama.

Friend B was saying how he had a labtop stolen and he was fed up with the place because they weren't really doing anything to get it back or investigating. I was trying to talk him (friend B) out of it when this other boy had gotten in the way and started asking what we were talking about.

So at first it was no big deal, until this other boy started pushing things a little bit. Thats when my friend A turned around and told him just to go back inside because this had nothing to do with him. That was polite because based off of how this guy was acting (which was growing violent) we could have been really mean about it.

When that happened and Friend A had told this other boy to go back into West dorm, this other boy had become mean. This other boy had started saying things like "I can do what I want" and "do you want to fight, I can take you in the bathroom, " and just kept making the situation worse. Knowing me I got defensive with him because that was threatening to me and knowing my friends are in danger because of it.

At this point a girl I had gone to school with but I don't know very well had come to check things out. The boy who was growing violent with us turned around towards her and told her to go watch out for the R.A. Which is the Residential Advisor, that he was going to hit me this and that. She goes "are you serious?" And he said "yeah." So she just smiled and went to watch for the R.A. I guess, I didn't really see her until after it was almost over.

So after she had left, he tried throwing a couple of "fake" punches at me, trying to make me jump or get scared off. Until eventually he had gotten out of the door. Then that's when everything had happened.

He did a circle around me and pushed me really hard on the ground. That made me surprised as I didn't think he was actually going to really touch me or hurt me in any way. I had stood up and at that point he had hit me on the side of the head, not with his fist, but kinda the side of his fist. That's when I got really angry with him and I tried to punch back but had missed him as he ran into West dorm and that is where he hid most of the night.

I was angry, that's when this girl that was previously there got out and held me back from going into West dorm and finding him.

But listen please this isn't the only thing that surprised me the most.

What surprised me the most was that after all this happened, I had gotten retaliation from his friends almost after it was over. They were saying all kinds of things like I had tripped myself and apparently blamed it on him or that I punched him first and he didn't touch me, even the girl was saying this, but its pretty funny when this girl who was watching out for the R.A. Wasn't even out there and was guilty herself knowing it was going to happen, or that there was at least a threat because of it. All sorts of stuff that just surprised me.

Because if this girl had gone to the R.A. And told her, the R.A. Would have come outside and did something about it, right?

All of this confused me until I learned a couple days after it happened that this girl and the boy I had gotten into a fight with were close friends or lovers one of the two. And the rest of the people that blamed me were also his friends.

You see, Job Corps are some pretty good liars. When I questioned them as to why security wasn't there or the R.A. Was notified they told me security was supposed to be down, when I didn't even see security there until about an hour after it was over. Still even then they never made sure I was even OK nor acted concerned for the safety of the students.

So a couple weeks after this happened everything was O.K. Me and the guy I had gotten into a fight with apologized to one another. That still doesn't make it right but I was willing to let it go and just forgive already. It was a stupid fight anyways and no more trouble had came.

I was almost graduated, a couple of months and I would have been out when I got a call from the guy who does the boards which a board is like a trial hearing (well sort of) its an unfair trial but a trial all the same. So I had a board. I was angry because it almost seemed unnecessary when they wait a FEW WEEKS AFTER the incident occured to tell me this, AFTER everything blowed over and no more anger, AFTER they had put me on Workbase (which is like seeing what the workplace is like, sometimes your sent off campus and sometimes you stay on campus depending,) AFTER everything that happened.

Like I said its like they didn't care, otherwise if it was that important to them they would check up on it, and I didn't see or hear anything from anybody until that point in time.

My board had came up a few days later and to make a long story short I was terminated. They had explained that there were no self defense laws on Job Corps property, that because I had punched him back (even though I had missed him when I did) that they still thought me as guilty. That because I was sticking up for a friend it made me the guilty one so they decided to terminate me.

After that I appealed because I plead not guilty, that's where I talk to the head of Paul Simon Chicago Job Corps and then he decides whether I stay or go.

So I was sitting in the head's office and it was time for my appeal. The head sat to my left and the guy who initially told me that I had a board was on my right. The head started talking about the Workplace and how we have to be professional at all times and how even if your on campus or off you have to obey Job Corps rules.

Feeling like this wasn't going anywhere at all, the head didn't express concern what had happened at any point for ANY party involved, kind of void of all expression what so ever. That showed me they never really did care.

At that point the head started saying "well is this going to happen again at the workplace?" I didn't know how to answer that question, because I don't know how to answer questions that are truly biased.

That question is particularly biased because how are you supposed to answer that question when people are generally unpredictable for one thing because sometimes you can't really help the actions of others, you can try to minimize the situation if it goes bad but sometimes things are just out of your control. So why would you ask such a silly question if I can't predict the future? This question was asked as if I was going to get hit by some other guy at some other workplace or something which doesn't make any sense at all to me because they acted as if it was a set up or something when the fight I got into that guy with I didn't even know who he was until I saw him that night.

So will this happen in the work place again? I hope not.in fact out of all the years I have held jobs this sort of thing never happened once.

So I didn't fully understand that question so I didn't know how to answer.

After that question was asked and since I didn't know how to answer this question I explained that I was only defending myself, it is my right to after all and I am not going to apologize for my rights because the head was already acting like he was trying to break me down in the way he was questioning me.

I already know I was in the wrong by trying to punch him back (even though I had missed, in my mind it was still defending myself though) and he knew he was in the wrong for hitting me in the first place. We had already apologized to each other so why would I apologize to a person that could of cared less or wasn't even invovled, nor did I feel like I owed any explanation at all.

After that the head looked at me and said "well we can always escort you down to the police station and they can figure out what to do with you, " in those exact words said, but it was said in a sarcastic tone of voice. So after that I was escorted out of the place where I got a ride from a friend who I am lucky enough not to be homeless without her.

Im lucky my friend came and got me and I even have a place to stay in Chicago with her.

So anyways that's all that happened I just wanted to get knowledge out so people can read it. Honestly this isn't the only screwed up thing that has happened there.


Offender: Paul Simon Chicago Job Corps

Country: USA   State: Illinois   City: Chicago
Address: 3348 South Kedzie Ave
Phone: 7738903100

Category: Miscellaneous

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