I worked for VES Marketing for a while and it was very deceptive. DS-Max is the parent company and they just basically use people like my then owner Vic Sandre as puppets and then they turn around and trick us into making money for them. The whole thing is a huge scam.
It starts out and it all sounds really great. The company only promotes from within, nice everyone wants to hear that right. Oh yeah and you will be promoted to management in about 6 months because it is a "managment training" program. Basically every question you ask during the interviews they fast talk around and then after your a trainer they teach you how to do the same thing. They say it's part of the system.
Well the system seems like a bunch of lies to me. They also tell you you'll make a base pay or commission whatever is greater; they fail to mention this only last about two weeks and that your base pay is coming out of your leaders pocket.
Here is an example of an average day after you become a leader. You get to the office at 7:30 in the morning so you can teach all the distributors on the board. Then there's a lot of cult like rallying going on. After that you get a Day of Observation which is your "opportunity" because you are supposed to build a team to get into management. Then you get your coupons and grab your day of O and a distributor and take them out to the field. Now the day of O has no idea what he's getting into because the owner makes it sound like it's some great proffessional company.
Then we park somewhere and start walking down the road. We go in ever single business we see, including fast food joints and try to sell in breathing soul we see coupons. It sucks let me tell you. Usually your territories have been walked over hundreds of times before you get there. You want to impress this guy on the interview but most of the time they get turned off when one to many secretaries give you a terrible look or cuss you out.
Oh yeah the distributor you are with probably dropped out of highschool and can barely muster a sentence correctly much less impulse someone to buy something on the spot. So his training pay comes right out of your pocket. You actually have to give this loser money for going out with you. And my ass owner Vic would tell people to just try it out for a week because they'll get training pay. Thanks dick, it's not coming out of your pocket. So we get back to the office about 6 and then stay until about 8. And if you don't hit your sales goals after a 12 hour work day they want you to go extra miling. That means soliciting at bars and places like that. What a joke, i can't believe i did it for as long as I did. Through this I lost my apartment and girlfriend. It was really good sales experience is the only ok thing i can say about it.
It makes any job after that seem like a piece of cake. The only way they keep you there is saying that its such a great opportunity, and that'll you'll be rich when your in management, but i'm not even sure about that. Vic lived in his girlfriend's apartment but he was supposed to be making 200,000 dollars a year. Yeah right buddy. He drove a BMW; but it was a 95 and not real nice. That doesn't sound like doctor money to me does it. This letter is probably all over the place but it's 3 in the morning i'm exhausted and I could probably write a book about this scam but i'm going to bed so i can go to work tommorrow (i am a cow i guess after all but at least i have money in my pocket).. Later
P.S. Vic: You used to always say you are in the business of helping people but you only promoted one manager yourself in like 5 years and you've probably had tens of thousands of people get f*ed over like myself, so to me i can't believe you can sleep at night after giving all those bullshit opportunity meetings. Whatever whatever right!!! Haha, maybe you'll be able to afford a house one day
JackTampa, Florida
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