Complaint / review text:
I have had enough of overdone time wasted garbage that is going on with AM.
I have been on Ashley Madison long enough to know there are some real women and an increasingly larger number of fake profiles. I started on AM a number of years ago when they were the most honest of a number of dating sites. However, it is increasingly losing what little it had to offer as it pimps itself out in the name of greed.
In the beginning it was bad enough that there was a 9 to 1 ratio of men to women: that most of the women were unsure and just seeing what the options looked like. That a good number just wanted attention even though it would be only virtual for there ability to take risk. Still further many just could not be motivated to take making anything real. Then to be fair there were a small number which would get down to business. However, those in most cases were not that appealing.
You would think that the real married women are enough to deal with. However, these days AM is playing the game too. Making fake profiles to make you think you are having success only to find after a few conversations their profile is gone from the system, or all of a sudden they have lost interest even though they seemed excited on the last message.
Here is what I learned:
Collect Messages are most likely not real and 99% not worth what you paid for them. I have never had a sane conversation that started as Collect. Most of the time no response. Real women want the guy to make the first move. Certainly with all the emails they get they have no need to write anyone first. I have to say some of the Collect messages that seemed real ended up sounding like they were mental patients.
Lately I have been getting Messages that are not collect that I did not pay to receive first. These are looking like fake too. It seems like AM is using these to boost your excitement to spend your credits.
Then there is the profile generation. Once your are online all of a sudden there are new profiles in your area matching your search requirements. I look for profiles newer than mine that are close to me and I stay away from them if they do not look like a real one.
AM has taken away the profile numbers on the profiles because they don't want you to realize what is really going on. You can still find the profile numbers which I use as a key tool. Using Internet explorer, add the profiles to your favorites, then scan over the profile name with the mouse. At the bottom of IE screen will show the profile number in the URL.
Or there is all these women asking for pictures, then I look in their profile and they don't have any. So I decline. Try it, all of a sudden I get several responses, especially the fake ones. I have caught AM at their game many times. It is interesting how they will try their marketing ploys to try to convince me they are real. A real women would ignore you or tell you to get lost. AM has to be nice to keep you around.
Let's Ban together and not let each other get ripped off.in summary:
Do not accept any Collect Message - most are fake and the rest certainly not worth it.
Free incoming message - most likely not worth it.
Women requesting pictures before any contact - many fake (the real women I met on AM waited for pictures and talked through personal email)
Most of it is just not stepping in the traps - AM faking or real women games (using it for their own validation).
Look for profiles that seem like they are real - not too good to be true. The ones that took time to fill in something worthwhile (although AM is putting more work into that too).
My success rate with years of experience and hundreds of emails (if not more). A lot of work for disappointing returns (there is a reason why these women are here instead of their coworker or neighbor)
Email conversations (more than a couple rounds) - 12
Meet in Person - 9
Hotel room Fun - 3
Do some research about Mr Biderman. He started AM for one reason, to make himself rich. He is happily married apparently. He started AM because saw a nich that was not being filled. He used to work with sports players and had to deal with aspects of their mistresses. His wife comments that the business is not what her husband is like as a person. His sin may not be adultry but it does not he does not have other weaknesses like greed. I would think he has already made enough, but then it is never enough.