Well, well, well. Look what's back. It is the same old swindle redressed. I empathize so very much with those whom have been taken. Hopefully these postings will end this nonsense for ever. Thank the LORD for usacomplaints.com. Answered prayer!
Herbalife - NYSE symbol HLF - is Herbalife brought back! The previous symbol was Nasdaq symbol HRLFT.in 1997, HRLFT mysteriously went down, down, down. No one could figure out why.in 1998, I found out that, because the insiders at Herbalife found out that the public was finding out that Herbalife products were the same as what any one can buy in a nutrition store in any shopping center of mall! With Herbalife charging between 2-3 times what a nutritional outlet was charging, it was a swindle. Those unfortunate enough to get an evil supervisor hence paid between 6 and 9.8 times too much for an ordinary nutritional product. Had to have the same supervisor. You were not allowed a different supervisor. Had to wait 6 months if wanted to change. Think it was 76.50 for a kit then.
Now, they bait you with "only" a charge of 9.95 -if it is "only", why dosen't Herbalife foot the charge? Or they bait you with an "only" 40.00 kit. Some supervisors were charging distributors up to 250 for the kit!!! Needless to say, that caused a lot of anger when the distributors found out that they could buy the kit for 76.50.
When I got in to Herbalife, I had a supervisor named Mr. Kim. I've forgotten his first name. He was Korean and had an office in Virginia. It was so easy to see through him. He would lie and say he was giving me a discount. I pointed out that, after all was said and done, I had paid more. Where's the discount? He would make up lies, then more lies. The guy gave no free samples nor discounts even though I was working hard. He would rave about the product and urged me to come to the "pep rallies".
At the pep rallies, they would play rock noise {one sure way to tell a fraud and a lie is if you hear rock noise: that one tid bit alone will save you tens of thousands} and these "distributors" and "supervisors" would gloriously proclaim how they lost weight, got a lot of energy and had a better love life. It was like one of those speaking in tongues services. It's so easy to see that it was a ruse, a ruse, just to make you work harder to make money for them. As one poster said: they are not getting recruits; they are getting customers. That's for sure!
When I attempted to call Los Angeles to complain about Mr. Kim, they refused the charges!!! So I wrote. They said they investigated; they lied! Thou shalt not bear false witness, upper mgt at Herbalife: Exodus 20:16, Deuteronomy 5:20. I met another distributor and learned that Herbalife "top of the upline" or whatever they're called asked Mr. Kim if he overcharged. He denied: end of the "investigation". Liars are out for themselves. They do not help you! Too bad these defenders of such shams do not know what they have gotten themselves in to.
Gregory Probert is not the same CEO as was there in 1995. So Herbalife went private, then resurfaced and went public again in December. Now this guy has been found out. He's been lying to the SEC. And this CEO violated Herbalife's own code of ethics. Why have the code if you're going to be a hypocrite? Could it be that Herbalife is looking for liars like its upper mgt? And some downliners are defending him! I mean, come on! How foolish can you be?! You're really something, you are!
That previous CEO; I've forgotten his name - his name is not in the insiders; I'd recognize it - supposedly sold out of his trunk and that's how it all started. I listened to tapes put out by that guy. One thing that REALLY disturbed me was that one is not allowed to sell in a retail {or wholesale} outlet! If you tell me I'm a business, I can sell wherever I want. I pay taxes. I filled out all the Forms required by the IRS to start a business. Every business sells from a base of operations. You can sell the products anywhere you want. Don't let any schemer tell you otherwise. They tell you that you own a business. A very obvious lie that requires nary an explanation.
I was one of the lucky ones. I sold one or two or the 4 or 5 kits I bought. The reason is that I waited, then got another supervisor. None of the stuff would sell but the new supervisor was nice, sympathetic and bought the stuff back from me. Turns out the powder co-ogaulated even with the drugs that are causing liver disease! Won't stand up to a little heat! Sad.
Lose weight with it? Not convinced; never seen it. Prove it to someone. For a fact, NONE of these shoddy products that come down the pike enable you to lose weight. Losing weight entails a willingness to put up with temporary pain. It involves extreme discipline: fasting; never overeating and a lot of exercising. You do not lose weight by drinking the powder mixed with ice cream, sundaes, pizzas, pies, cakes, candy, shakes, soda, chocolate, cheese, donuts, etc.
In addition, NONE of these flim flams give you energy. Believe me, I tried them all: Amway, Market America, Herbalife, For U - I wish I couldn't even remember. I found the only food that gives energy is cod liver oil. Cod liver oil works. And it wards off disease; which is so important in light of the sodomites threatening to spread their diseases unless you spend your money to find a cure for incurable diseases like hiv and the latest one that has recently erupted.
Don't need to recommend a brand name. Just shop around for the best deal. I found one where I could get it for. 02375/pill. Take one pill a day. Everyone's metabolism is different. For the majority of people, results will begin to be seen in 6 months to 3 years.
So why buy Herbalife or waste time deceiving "downline" or potential "downline"? If you want to invest your money, get in to real estate, the stock market, the commodities market, currency futures, start a real business where YOU can earn a profit, NOT some one on an "up-line" that you do not even know who may have no morals, may be using the profits to chicken hawk, spread a cult, sell marijuana, etc. Every business owner likes to reap personally from HIS work. No one wants to sweat only to lose out and profit someone else who doesn't deserve to earn a profit due to your sweating for very little to nothing, or even a loss. Multi level marketing is another word for communism.
These types of plights come down the pike quite often. When they contact me, I tell them: Oh yeah? If I'm going to make all this money, pay my expenses to come to the meetings; give me 100M shares of stock, 200M shares of preferred, 500M warrants in the company. When they balk, I tell them, what's the matter? Bill Gates had an idea. To get his friends to believe in him, he didn't dream up pipe dreams, fairy tales, science fiction nor lies to woo them. He promised them shares of stock in his company when his company succeeded. I love for high pressure seared conscience saleswomen and salesmen to approach me. I love to see rats scramble. Works every time. Don't let these fast talking confidence boys and girls talk you in to any thing. As always, investigate before you invest. Some great references are below.
MLM stands for mammoth leech monster!
Http://www.frauddiscovery.net/herbalife2/Lead_findings. Pdf
http://www.frauddiscovery.net/
http://seekingalpha.com/article/74434-herbalife-president-falsified-credentials-barry-minkow? Source=yahoo
http://nextaxpro. Spaces. Live.com/
http://seekingalpha.com/article/74434-herbalife-president-falsified-credentials-barry-minkow? Source=yahoo
http://www.frauddiscovery.net/herbalife2/Hepatology_articles. Pdf
Most never read their sales contracts. As to why they never earned a profit, most assume it was their own fault. Read this, defenders of endless chains; zero economic growth! % of the supervisors make money; they make their money by the worldwide impoverishment of the other 99%. Herbalife is the lottery! It is EVIL!!! Read it! What are you scared of?! Read it!
Http://www.frauddiscovery.net/Herbalife/WallStreetFooled. Pdf
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