Like boiler room, I work in high pressure sales in MD's (5 yrs) CEC school. Sanford Brown Institute prepares students for careers in health care; reps are trained to sell students our school is highly selective, leading students to believe these schools are on par with even the ivy leagues.
Lousy grades and prior drug use aren't enough to get students rejected. Some student even have a "problem with blood." The reps pitch to the students that 98 percent of our students have a problem with blood. The first day of the module, they hand you a syringe and say, 'Go for it.
CEC is most interested in is tuition. They want to say that the student comes first, but it becomes obvious to anybody that works in the school, that the student does not come first. This "school" only exists to milk the federal student loan program. This is a direct result of expanding the student loan program to include trade schools instead of accredited colleges and universities as the program was originally intended.
Keep voting for them Democrats, as they are the ones responsible for this mess as they turned this into a class issue during the Carter administration and expanded the program to include so-called trade schools. No surprise that such "trade schools" started springing up like mushrooms growing on a manure pile. It's not so easy to start a college or university. Hence the wasteful mess it is now. Reagan and the first Bush tried to fix this and were stopped by Democratic controlled Congress. Clinton just ignored the problem. Bush II and the current Congress fixed it though. This is how: bankruptcy won't get rid of any of your student loans ever.
This will be an albatross around your neck until you pay it off or until the day you die. Eventually word will get around to even the uninformed and "schools" like this will either really train candidates or go out of business. Bush II would have liked to simply cut off student loans to these rip-off trade schools. As an ex-Admissions Advisor for Sanford brown institute, GlenGary/Ross or boiler room hits the mark.
I highly suggest potential students of CEC schools Leave While You Can! I went through training, and here are some key points that I gained through the whole process. They make it seem as though the school is selective, but it is not. If you have any ounce of dignity, you will want to join a school because you know that you REALLY proved yourself to them and displayed your commitment, intelligence and focus.
They ask about your intent to join school. It's a manipulative trick to get you pumped about changing your life. Throughout the whole interview they never give you a chance to ask questions about the school because they want you to go on the website and look the information up for yourself. They don't want to commit to anything factual on the phone or by email.
It's all about the #'s. Admissions Advisors don't really care about you. At least, most don't. They want to meet their quota. It's very much a sales environment. Truth is, the degree isn't going to get you a good job. Only debt, unhappiness and misery. Most HR people out there know about the different colleges and universities, and you can be sure they know about CEC schools.
Even if you say that there is convenience in completing an online degree, don't fall for it. You have to do a lot of reading coordinate your schedules around your classmates for team projects, and complete homework, and papers in a short time span. You may as well do all of that in a real college. I left my job (high-paying) because it was too unethical for me. I actually do have a conscience.
Also, I didn't want to smash the genuine dreams that prospective students have of going back to college.By the way, most "reps" last only a few months in their positions. More than 90% turnover in this company. Go figure. Dr carl has stolen so much from so many i wouldnt know where to begin. This guy is like a blitzkreig nazi bomber (only not as light) LMFAO.'doctor carl" as he likes to be called (he has a "dimploma mill "degree" hanging on his wall stating he has a "masters" but I personally don't feel its worth the paper it was faxed into him on. "dr carl" is a scam onto himself.
If this schools gets busted (which it should, if there exists divine justice in the universe) then Dr carl (LMFAO) should be the first one to bend over. I have the feeling "dr carl" may be the original flaming boy wonder. Of course, there is only one way to be certain " video tape him while he is "watching " the neighbors young son on sat mornings". So where does this leave us?"dr carl" the rabid homosexual with a likening for your younger sons, an appetite for dishonesty in the work place unparraled by a hundred years of history of corporate theivery, and finally, the way he can swallow $30 worth of mcdonnalds in one brief sitting withoput having to race his * to the nearest bathroom immediately.
I can only say, WOW what a fella. Ohh yeah one more thing. This guy pays himself (cheating peoplesoft) 10-20 hrs of overtime a week (his bestfriend the DOA. NIGEL signs off on it as "accurate"). But I know (with easily 10 other witnesses, spanning more than 8 months!) He doesn't actually show up for more than three (5-8 hr shifts) days a week and thats while indulging himself with these 3 hr lunches. Unbelievable that the company (CEC) allows his BULLSH* to continue unbriddled.
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