Dark Union Industries is a independent record label which is owned by Josh Carolin and it is located in Syracuse, New York. The job that I was origionally was to make for them a website and graphics. I would also later update the site for them. Well I came into contact with Josh through my friend Nick N* who is the band The Lost Anthology. The Lost Anthology is signed by Dark Union Industries so I thought I would be able to trust Josh.
I came into contact with Josh in late May and he had offered me money for making him a new site and also graphics for his webpage and his myspace. He said he would pay me $150 each month I did updates. After I started to do work for him he seemed pleased and then he said he would send me $250 dollars because he knew I had been working hard. Well then April came around and no money came in the mail.
He then asked me to make him a completion and he said he would pay me another $250 for the completion. A completion is a EP or album cover. I made it and he still had to give me the tracks to put on the back.
I continued to make graphics for his site and myspace site so it would look a bit more appealing to its visitors. Every week he said he would send the money and increase the price. There would be a new explanation for the money not coming in the mail.
The first time he sent out the check, it supposively was "lost" in the mail. I understood that so I didnt mind.
The 2nd reason he didnt want to send the money because he had been dealing with a death in the family. His father had died and he decided to drop everything and not worry about business. Threatening to not give me my money when I asked for it.
The 3rd reason was apparently not his fault. His accountant apparently didnt send my check out or any other checks out so no one got their checks. I believed this one to. So I trusted him and waited once more.
The next time he sent a check out he managed to put the wrong address on the sending address which made it go back to sender. He said he had put his own address on as the sending address. After that it started to annoy me. Finally i spoke up again, and he threatened me i would get my money, not to complain or I wont get it.
After that he had said that he would be paying me over paypal. So i thought this would be great, i cant get my money instantly. So i wait for him, and all of a sudden, a business man who doesnt have his own credit card or account can't send money. So he needs to wait for his aunt to come home to transfer the money to my account. His aunt doesn't come home and the money is never transfered.
Then later that week i get a call from him and he tells me that he will be coming to Chicago to check out my friends band The Lost Anthology. He comes but doesnt bring the money. Then he says that hes ganna have his aunt wire him the money because he didnt wanna travel with that much money. He left while staying a whole week within my area and without paying me my $600. $600 was the final payment.
Finally he said he would get me the money last week. It is July 14th today and i asked him what happened to the check. Its been two weeks. I get a message back from him saying that the check was sent and the money was withdrawn from his account.
I became mad because i never got the check in the mail and my family didnt either. No one stole the check from my mail i dont think. But i think he is trying to rip me off. I kept some of the messages that he said he would get the money to me, and than when he said he would threaten me. Here are some of the messages that were sent between me and him.
& (EMAILS)&From: josh carolin [Add to Address Book]
To: metaldrumfreakSubject: yooooo erik! Date: Monday, April 03 1:06: 11 PM [View Source]
Hey eric i sent u some files and pics for some myspace banners. Also i will be sending u a (PSD) file for photoshop for my original layer for the D.U.I. Logo.
-Josh-
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From: josh carolin [Add to Address Book]
To: metaldrumfreakSubject: Date: Wednesday, April 12 12:01: 20 PM [View Source]
Yo eric here is the lost anthology's bio... There is somthing to start with for now, i will have somthing better for the bio soon. Call me when u get in or get this... Here is my number at home, dont call after 8 or so... 315-4*...
Reforming in August of The Lost Anthology recreated it's present blend of hardcore and metal after resolidifying a continuous lineup struggle since late 2002. After welcoming ex. At Gunpoint drummer Adam S*into the project, original founders Nick Nativo and Tony P* began to layout future plans to regroup TLA after 3 lost drummers over the past 2 years. With the addition of Frank P* to bring the band into new boundries, a new solid lineup brought "Reverie, " a new TLA release since 2003's "Through Our Eyes." As 2006 begins to pass by, a new recording at More Sound Studios will be laid down in July as the band begins to piece together an unrelentless fusion of the current metalcore genre.
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From: josh carolin [Add to Address Book]
To: metaldrumfreakSubject: I have a new e-mail addressDate: Saturday, April 15 9:11: 35 AM [View Source]
Hey guys make sure to put my new e-mail address in you contacts!!! Here it is... *
-josh-
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To: metaldrumfreakSubject: bio/pics... Date: Thursday, April 20 10:56: 03 AM [View Source]
Yo Erik tis a new bio for (tbp) and here are some pics i have attached...
No longer resembling its original manifestation The Breathing Process Pummels its listener with pure raw emotion not only in its layers of texture in music styles but what can only be described as compassionate yet fervent live presence. The band which originally formed in 2003 by Jordan* and original drummer Dan Jones to play grindy death metal after touring nationwide for nearly two years in support of their first release Dialogue Analysis for the Heartless (youth and noise records) has changed lineup and matured to a level of melody and harmony, with the addition of a third guitar and melodic vocals The Breathing Process is that much closer to world domination. Obliterating all that lay in its path with unyielding ferocity.influenced by all music of all genres The Breathing Process still progresses in skill and sound. Retaining its heart The Breathing Process makes music for musicians and music lovers alike Forfans of Kill Switch engage, Meshuggah, As I Lay Dying, and any form of extreme music This is the band to behold.
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From: josh carolin [Add to Address Book]
To: erik Subject: Fwd: cd cover demensions... Date: Sunday, May 07 7:14: 59 PM [View Source]
This is the demension and the example is used on tla"s demo cover.
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Subject: cd coversDate: Thu, 04 May 20:15: 57 -0700
Heres the exact pdf's they used for the printing
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From: josh carolin [Add to Address Book]
To: metaldrumfreakSubject: bio mofo! Date: Sunday, June 25 11:39: 18 PM [View Source]
Blinded Colony Bio: Sweden has given birth to some of the best heavy metal bands over the few years, and Blinded Colony are the next to follow in those footsteps. Never imitating, but building upon the bricks laid by bands like The Haunted, Soilwork, In Flames and Children of Bodom, Blinded Colony is the representation of the next generation of aggressive metal. With adrenaline-laced guitar rhythms, dizzying keyboards and ripping vocals, Blinded Colony creates a distinguished harmonic aggression that hits you harder than a size 16 boot-to-the-face. Formed in January by guitarists, Johan Blomstrm, Tobias Olsson and original singer Niklas S*, Blinded Colony was known as Stigmata.By they released two demos, Painreceiver and Tribute to Chaos. Tribute to Chaos caught the attention of Italy-based Scarlet Records. Coinciding with their newfound record deal, the band officially changed their name to Blinded Colony. Their full-length debut, Divine, was testament to their work ethic, self-produced and released in 2003 through Scarlet Records. Divine not only featured artwork by Carlos *, but the album also created such a buzz that it received full, proper distribution in Japan through Soundholic Records. Blinded Colony and Scarlet Records parted ways a year later. This also marked ushering in of new singer, Johan Schuster. The band recorded an industry promo in 2005 that showcased Schusters use of powerful, throat-tearing screams and soaring, clean vocals. While this style is used often in contemporary metal music, Schusters style made him a noticeable standout among the herd. Combined with the bands treacherous style of musicianship, this promo caught the attention of Pivotal Rockordings, who immediately took note of Schusters vocals and the energetic boost he brought to the band as a unit. Its a feat of Blinded Colonys own determination and vision that they have established themselves with a unique sound, without falling into the bottomless pit of Swedish copycat clone bands. Their drive to succeed has already landed them on the same stage with international acts such as Hammerfall, Dark Tranquillity, Evergrey, and Mercenary. With their Pivotal Rockordings worldwide debut geared for the fall, Blinded Colony will follow it up with a tour of Europe and select festivals in support. No doubt, this is another opportunity for the band to capitalize on their work ethic for success. Dont be surprised when Blinded Colony breaks through as a household name!
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 13:49: 56 -0700 (PDT) From: Send an Instant Message "josh carolin" Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile AlertYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn moreSubject: stuff for blinded colonyTo: ptftaband@yahoo. Comhey buddy photo and bio are attached... I will send u acouple more e-mails with the tour and updates for the site.
-Josh-
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&Date: Thu, 1 Jun 13:58: 51 -0700 (PDT) From: Send an Instant Message "josh carolin" Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile AlertYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn moreSubject: linksTo: ptftaband@yahoo. Comyo here are the links i want to put in the site too...
1.- www.myspace.com/tbp
"the breathing process"
2.- www.myspace.com/thelostanthology
3.- www.myspace.com/assassin315
4.- www.myspace.com/officialdarkunion
5.- www.myspace.com/blindedcolony
6.- www.myspace.com/pivotalrockordings
7.- www.myspace.com/thehellfirebookingagency
8.- www.pivotalrage.com
9.- www.metalblade.com
Can we associate these links with there pics... Each company and band?
-Josh-
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 11:39: 09 -0700 (PDT) From: Send an Instant Message "josh carolin" Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile AlertYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn moreSubject: yo tourTo: ptftaband@yahoo. ComThe Allegiance Tour
Tour dates for The Breathing Process, The Lost Anthology and As Blood Runs Black
8/5 Syracuse, NY8/6 Albany, NY8/7 Springfield, MA8/8 Boston, MA8/9 Providence, RI8/10 Hartford, CT8/11 West Haven, CT8/12 New York, NY8/13 Asbury Park, NJ8/14 Camden, NJ8/15 Baltimore, MD8/16 Richmond, VA8/17 Virginia Beach, VA8/18 Raleigh, NC8/19 Charlotte, NC8/20 Myrtle Beach, SC8/21 Savannah, GA8/22 Jacksonville, FL8/23 Daytona Beach, FL8/24 Tampa Bay, FL8/25 Orlando, FL8/26 Ocala, FL8/27 Valdosta, GA8/28 Atlanta, GA8/29 Chattnooga, TN8/30 Nashville, TN8/31 Mempis, TN9/01 Little Rock, AR9/02 Fayettville, AR9/03 Oklahoma City, OK9/04 Dallas, TX9/05 Abilene, TX9/06 Odessa, TX9/07 El Paso, TX9/08 Tuscon, AZ9/09 Phoenix, AZ9/10 Palm Springs, CA9/11 Huntington Beach / Long Beach, CA9/12 Anaheim / Orange CA9/13 Los Angeles, CA9/14 Las Vegas, NV9/15 Flagstaff, AZ9/16 Albuquerque, NM9/17 Amarillo, TX9/18 Oklahoma City, OK9/19 Witchita, KS9/20 Topeka KS / Kansas City, MO9/21 St. Louis, MO9/22 Peoria, IL9/23 Orland Park, IL9/24 Lake Station, IN9/23 Niles, MI9/24 Goshen, IN9/25 Cleveland / Akron, OH9/26 Pittsburgh, PA9/27 Harrisburg, PA9/28 Scranton PA / Binghamton NY9/29 Syracuse, NY
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 11:51: 19 -0700 (PDT) From: Send an Instant Message "josh carolin" Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile AlertYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn moreSubject: tour poster file attachedTo: ptftabandhere is the tour jpg
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Dark Union IndustriesDate: Apr 5 5:47 PM Flag spam/abuse. [? ]Subject: yo erikBody: Hey man, where u been? Did u get my stuff?... Call me man. 315 378 9403... - josh-
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Dark Union IndustriesDate: May 3 9:26 PM Flag spam/abuse. [? ]Subject: RE: dude! Body: OK! So if this is the route u want to go we can take it... I have all the shit u need except for The lost anthlogy... including tour dates so dont get surely with me... I have not been able to get you for days... Do not get pissed at me for telling your dad what was up because i know thats the reason, so dont get bent... Get on the computer and let me know what has been going on, i waited for over 2 hours for your call the other night just to get a "o sry im at denny's drawing it up", its not my fault that u cant call someone back... Now, i am paying u for a reason and u are talented in the things u do... If u do not want this responsibility tell me because i will find someonelse to do it. If your were motivated and smart enough u could relize that "hmmmmm maybe this guy will hire me full time and keep me around"... This is what i want to do erik so please dont f* yourself, i want to keep u around and i have e-mailed things to you and have had no response.
-Josh-
Original Message — From: mr. HardxcoreDate: May 3 8:43 PM
First of all i cant get the album art done until i get this picture scanned to a computer... Im having trouble doing that because whenever im ganna do it my friend wont pick up or shit like that... Second of all your telling me that youve given me information to put to the site when all you have given me are band bios... First people's asses that you need to get on are all your bands... in order to start putting that site together i need promotional images of each band... And ive asked you many times to write up a list of what you want on the site examples maybe?
-homepage: i've got that covered. That will include news and updates and shit...-artists: ive got all the biographies but now i need promos from each band...-tour: i need tour dates...-media: mp3's, video's and other stuff involving that-links: what pages you want listed in the links page-аbout: how the record label became what it is today? Or a description of what dui is...-contact info: your email and mailing address...
Now u have been on my ass about the album art and stuff like that but when ive been asking u for this stuff for the site, the position i was origionally hired for, ive been getting the minimal ammount of work needed to get this company up on the internet..
Im not trying to be an asshole but this had to be said.
Later bro
Erik
As i have told you, i have everything except for the lost anthology. I have been waiting to get ahold of you see we can peice this together, i did not take your message the wrong way at all i dont think. I hate the internet because u cant hear someody's tone of voice so i appologize if it sounds like i wanna tear somone's head off and shit down there neck... Just atleast call me or get on the computer tonight so i can shoot u the rest of the stuff. LASERBEAM! -Josh-
Original Message — From: mr. HardxcoreDate: May 3 10:08 PM
And first of all yeah i was at dennys drawing it up... Because thats where i get my most of my work done, u seem to think i just slack off but when u've usually wanted something ive gotten it done, and no u havnt sent me all the information ive asked of you, the only information you have given me so far is the bios... Assassin, doesnt have any promos, tla doesnt have any good promos that u can actually work with, the only people that are actually on their shit is the breathing process... I can do it but u want shit on your desk once u ask for it. U gotta understand it takes time, and u never really give me much to work with so not only does it take time to create it takes time to also think up ideas... I dont have a problem with you and u have already seemed to take my message in the wrong way...
Aight brosiph, im back home i ran into some problems lastnight. But all i have to say is u have a wicked sweet beard! Lol. Call me and we will swap info. -Josh-
Original Message — From: mr. HardxcoreDate: Jun 16 6:48 PM
First, whats your plain old email. I found out it doesn't need to be hooked up to your Credit Card. Also u just need to get your credit card info to pay. Because from what it looks like, it says that i send u a email, and its kinda like a bill of some sort, and it come to your email i guess, and than u prob click a link to pay it with your credit card. O yea i also need to know the amount your paying me so i can write it down for how much im suppose to recieve... I know this looks really confusing but try to understand what i just said in the few previous sentences... Later bro-erik
Dark Union Industries
Date: Jul 14 2:12 PM Flag spam/abuse. [? ] Subject: RE: RE: RE: whats been going on? Body: Aint pullin no shit... To many problems thanks for your time and effort, i will be finding someone else to do our work. -Josh-
Original Message — From: Circus Ink Design Date: Jul 14 12:37 PM
Dude ive gotten no check in the mail... I have not a cent to my name... Dont even try and pull that and say that the money has been drawn from you account...
Original Message — From: Dark Union Industries Date: Jul 14 12:21 PM
Yo, I sent it out... It shows that my account has been drawn from... I havnt heard anything from u until now. Hope your not f*ing with me. -Josh-
Original Message — From: Circus Ink Design Date: Jul 14 10:09 AM
Well its been about a week and a half since you said i would get the money in the mail... And well its not here... And again you avoided trying to send the money the easy way, by transfering with an account number or even with paypal... Well please me give me a call... Ill end up calling u. Thankyou. -erik
These are all my emails and messages with him, unedited right from my inbox. I also have phonebills to prove ive talked to him and also all my art work on my computer. Thank you and i hope you can help me out in anyway.
ErikEvergreen Park, Illinois
U.S.A.
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