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Complaint / Review
Franck Muller - Omega, Rolex, Jaquet, Montres Allison, Breguet, Movado, TAG Heuer
Ripoff, scam, counterfeits, liars, cheats, thieves, conartists

It seems like every week they are finding more and more scandals in the Swiss watch indsutry. Please note in the article below that the use of Russian movements in the Swiss watches is okay under Swiss law in Swiss made watches. This also applies to Asian movements and German movements (many of which are far better than Swiss). After this article, I will post the guidelines to use the term "Swiss Made" on a watch.

The term is a marketing tool that allows companies in the "old boy network" of the Swiss watch industry to deceive customers by using the term on components that are not in fact made in Switzerland. They act as if the use of the term signifies the highest quality, but it does not necessarily show higher quality than a good component manufacturer in another country. Out of all of the major luxury watch companies, speculation has it that they are all doing similar things, but only one or two provide full disclosure.

INDUSTRY NEWS Major Scandal - Russian Movements for Franck Muller Watches? Dec 04 - 02:39 PM

The Geneva newspaper Le Temps is reporting that the ongoing investigations into watch thefts at Jacquet SA and Franck Muller Watchland, have brought up the fact that up to 20,000 Russian made movements were being sent to Jaquet for finishing and transformation and then delivered to Franck Muller Watchland for use in its watches.

This practice is apparently legal under Swiss watch industry guidelines. Unfortunately, the paperwork on this shipment has been lost, and the parties involved have lost track of these movements and where they are fitted!

In addition, Le Temps learned that Jean-Pierre Jaquet tried to obtain watch dials of watches directly from a supplier of a company that was a customer of Jaquet SA, and that it was being done without the knowledge of the company whose name is on those dials. Knowing the credentials of Jean-Pierre Jaquet and of his company, the supplier did not object, and provided him with the dials.

This type of practices are used by counterfeiters who obtain surpluses of movements, cases or other components of the watch, and then manufacture them and sell them as genuine pieces through grey-market channels.

This affaire is turning into a major scandal as you can imagine, and I would be hesitant to purchase any watch made by any of the parties involved or its affiliates, until 100% proof of authenticity can be done.

Thanks.
Jorge.

Swiss Made

A General Overview

Watches, clocks and alarm clocks manufactured in Switzerland bear the designation "Swiss made" (or its abbreviation "Swiss") as well as the logo of the producer or distributor. This label ("place of origin" in legal terms) enjoys a solid reputation throughout the world. And globalization of trade has done nothing to diminish its importance. On the contrary, the modern consumer is looking for a maximum of information when he or she goes shopping for a new timepiece.

What lies behind this reputation?
What does a label like this mean for the consumer?

"Swiss made" embodies a concept of quality that has been forged over the years. It includes the technical quality of watches (accuracy, reliability, water-resistance and shock-resistance), as well as their aesthetic quality (elegance and originality of design). It covers both traditional manufacturing and new technologies (micro-electronics).

The Swiss are not the only watchmakers to manufacture high-quality timepieces and are consequently faced with strong competition. However, thanks to their unique infrastructure and to their know-how and spirit of innovation, they have succeeded in maintaining their leading position.

The intrinsic value of the "Swiss made" label, therefore, is the result of considerable efforts on the part of watchmaking companies, who are ultimately responsible for maintaining its reputation.

While prestigious brand names have thrived, they have never relegated the "Swiss made" label to a secondary place. The brand names and "Swiss made" have always worked together in an alliance that provides the consumer with the best of guarantees.

It is hardly surprising that this asset whets the appetite of counterfeiters. "Swiss made" has to be constantly protected on every market. Providing this protection is one of the principal tasks of the FH which conducts an on-going battle through legal and administrative channels to thwart anyone abusing the "Swiss" name. The weapons used in this battle are the laws of each of the countries concerned, backed by international agreements (bi-lateral treaties signed by Switzerland with several European countries and multi-lateral conventions drawn up by the World Intellectual Property Organization and by the World Trade Organization - TRIPS agreement -).

Recognizing that it must set the example, Switzerland has already reinforced the legal instruments at its disposal. The new law on "the protection of brand names and place of origin", passed on 28 August 1992, introduced more severe punishments. The Swiss customs authorities, for their part, keep a vigilant eye on all imports, exports and merchandise in transit.

Moreover, a law "regulating the use of the name 'Swiss' for watches" sets out the minimum conditions that have to be fulfilled before a watch merits the "Swiss made" label.

This law is based on a concept according to which Swiss quality depends on the amount of work actually carried out on a watch in Switzerland, even if some foreign components are used in it. It therefore requires that the assembly work on the movement (the motor of the watch) and on the watch itself (fitting the movement with the dial, hands and the various parts of the case) should be carried out in Switzerland, along with the final testing of the movement. It also requires that at least 50% of the components of the movement should be manufactured in Switzerland.

Certain regions in Switzerland have their own "place of origin" labels. One of the most renowned is "Genve", which identifies top-quality timepieces made in the city and canton of Geneva. Like "Swiss made", this label is very popular with counterfeiters and therefore benefits from continuous protection within the framework of the FH's anti-counterfeiting programme.

The Swiss watch industry is very active in safeguarding the integrity of "Swiss made" and its other regional labels of quality.

The vigilant consumer can also play an effective supporting role.By choosing reputable sales points and not being tempted by deals that are as dubious as they are outlandish, he or she will help to thwart counterfeiters, protect his or her own interests and contribute to the defence of fair trading.

The FH and its regional representatives will be happy to provide further information on this subject.

Legally Speaking

Conditions for Use Wristlet A Swiss Watch Case
A Swiss Movement"Swiss Quartz" Indication
Material Extent of the Use of the Word "Swiss"
"Swiss Parts" Indication

Particular Cases
Role of the FH

Conditions for Use A Swiss Watch
Only when it is Swiss, may a watch carry the indications "Swiss made" or "Swiss", or any other expression containing the word "Swiss" or its translation, on the outside. According to Section 1a OSM, a watch is considered to be Swiss if:

Its movement is Swiss;
its movement is cased up in Switzerland;
and the manufacturer carries out the final inspection in Switzerland.

A Swiss Movement

As we have seen, to be Swiss, a watch must use a Swiss movement. According to Section 2 OSM, a movement is considered to be Swiss if:

It has been assembled in Switzerland;
it has been inspected by the manufacturer in Switzerland; and
the components of Swiss manufacture account for at least 50 percent of the total value, without taking into account the cost of assembly.
If the movement fulfills these conditions, but the watch is not assembled in Switzerland, the "Swiss" indication may be affixed to one of the components of the movement. On the outside of the watch, may then only appear the "mouvement suisse" or "Swiss movement" indication. Section 3 3 OSM requires that the word "movement" appear in full, and be written in the same type-face, of identical size and colour, as the word "Swiss".

Right Wrong

Material Extent of the Use of the Word "Swiss"

The word "use" is understood in a broad sense: it not only covers the application of the above-mentioned designation to the watch, but also, according to Section 3 5 OSM:

The sale, offering for sale or putting into circulation of watches bearing such an indication;
the application of this designation to signs, advertisements, prospectus, invoices, letters or commercial papers.

Particular Cases

Wristlet

The "Swiss made" indication may only appear on a wristlet if it is of Swiss manufacture and if the watch is also Swiss. A wristlet is considered to be Swiss if it has undergone an essential manufacturing operation in Switzerland and if 50 percent of the production costs originate in Switzerland.

When a Swiss wristlet is attached to a watch manufactured abroad, it may only bear a reference to the word "Swiss" if this designation clearly shows that only the wristlet is of Swiss manufacture (for example, "Swiss wristlet").

Case

The "Swiss case" indication on a watch case betokens that the case is of Swiss manufacture. A case is considered to be Swiss if:

It has undergone an essential manufacturing operation in Switzerland (stamping, turning, or polishing);
it has been assembled and inspected in Switzerland; and
over 50 percent of the manufacturing costs (excluding the value of the material) are due to operations carried out in Switzerland.
When the "Swiss case" indication appears on the outside of the case, and the watch is of foreign manufacture, the origin of the movement or of the watch must also be affixed to the outside of the watch.

"Swiss Quartz" Indication

This indication is often illegally affixed to the outside of the watch, especially by foreign manufacturers wishing to show that the quartz movement used is of Swiss origin. But, according to the OSM, the use of this indication on the outside of the watch signifies that the watch is Swiss.

"Swiss Parts" Indication

This marking indicates that the movement is composed of movement-blanks which have been manufactured in Switzerland, but assembled abroad. This indication may only appear on the movement, and never on the outside of the watch.

Role of the FH

The FH has a double role in the protection of this indication of geographical origin;

Firstly, the FH advises the companies on the lawful markings for watches and movements according to the Federal Council's Ordinance governing the use of the word "Swiss" for watches;

Secondly it may act against companies which illegally use this indication, in order to protect the consumer, on the one hand, and, on the other hand, the renown of this designation, which is synonymous with quality.

If you have any questions about "Swiss made", please do not hesitate to contact a member of our Legal staff. (See also News)

Download the text of the Federal Council's Ordinance governing the use of the word "Swiss" for watches

Franais

General Overview
Legally Speaking

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Source: Le Temps


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