Elite Investments, Easynamesale.com, Greatdomains.com, Gary Crutcher, Paul Rancour, Robert Gardos
Elite Investments, Domain appraisal scam - do your homework! London
- 11-23-2008
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This has been discussed on other forums, but needs additional attention here. This is a scam to get you to purchase a domain appraisal. Please be aware!
I am generally cautious and treat all unknown authors as potential scammers, but they engaged me in the same way and I bit into the scam too. At first glance, I assumed he was trying to sell appraisal services. His independent link was a bit convincing. Just when I allowed myself a few seconds to let it sink in that it could be my luck to get such a nice offerI did what that little nagging voice said and did a Google check on the email and name. I am so glad you discussed this!
What gets me is that I got personal and discussed my situation and why I was selling my site and this scammer has no problem taking advantage of me. I removed the details of my situation for privacy purposes.
Here's my discussion with Mr. Gary Crutcher:
Can you accept 5,000 USD?
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.
After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
Original Message
From: Torrey
To: Crutcher'
Sent: Sunday, November 23 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: tailoredmaid.com (sent 11/22)
Mr. Crutcher,
Thank you for your continued response and information. I admit, I am new to the concept of selling domains and did not realize the added value of having the domain appraised. I do appreciate the guidance.
I am marketing the site as both the domain and web content. I used MS Office Live as the host, which is proprietary in the use of the site.
However, Melbourne IT is the registrar. MS Office Live has indicated that if anyone buys the site and needs to use the web content outside of their proprietary hosting, the code can be copied and used by another hosting
service if they choose not to transfer the site internally. I feel the web content is a value-added benefit to the domain. If you choose to use it, that's fine. I am including the custom graphics and logos to the
potential buyer and releasing all rights to the new owner. If a buyer only wishes to buy the domain, that's fine too.
I would need some time to come up with the funds to get a manual appraisal. This will delay any negotiations, but your honesty with me to base the sale on the true value of the domain is admirable. (personal discussion removed)
I put a lot of effort in the name Tailored Maid and generate a lot of interest in the site. I know that with some patience, I will find the right buyer. Hopefully we can be of benefit to each other.
I recently registered with Escrow.com and feel this is the best method of transfer if we reach that point.
Thanks again for your time. I will continue my efforts to get a manual appraisal.in the meantime, the offer still stands.
Sincerely,
Torrey
Original Message
From: Crutcher [mailto: crutcher@eliteinvestment.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 23 12:46 AM
To: Torrey
Subject: Re: tailoredmaid.com (sent 11/22)
1500. Ok.
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.
After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
Original Message
From: Torrey
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 22 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: tailoredmaid.com (sent 11/22)
Mr. Crutcher,
Thank you for your interest. The domain and website content are available for $1,500.00 USD. Please let me know if you have continued interest and if I can answer any questions you may have.
Sincerely,
Torrey
http://www.tailoredmaid.com
Original Message
From: crutcher@eliteinvestment.net [mailto: crutcher@eliteinvestment.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 22 8:35 AM
To: removed@tailoredmaid.com
Subject: tailoredmaid.com (sent 11/22)
Hello,
Your domain name has been found online. Please let us know your price.
We are always interested in buying and selling good domains.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Regards,
Gary Crutcher
Vice President
Elite Network
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